Aston Villa vs Tottenham Post-Match Thread

[SoccerHQ]

I accept the Benteke red. It's soft but it's the sort of thing players do get sent off for if the ref sees it.

The rules are a bit fcuked up though I have to say when something like that is a red card offence and the Vertonghen tackle is deemed a yellow card offence.

Which one of those can cause serious injury again?

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We should have won that game and were going to do so until the sending off.

Spurs were very poor throughout in my opinion and looked pretty clueless second half. I said they'd bring Lamella on, but he did nothing and Benteke continued to give Kaboul nightmares. We created good chances in the first half with Lowton's crossing being largely good.

Other positives included N'Zogbia getting close to Benteke and also using the ball well too. He put in some decent crosses and I thought he was our man of the match. Andi too actually got close to Benteke.

Lowton worried me defensively with some weak clearances, as did Vlaar, who made a few poor decisions, Adebeyor's chance being one. But beyond that, we were the better side and right up until Benteke walked.

I thought Vertongen was lucky to stay on and I would like to see it again. The referee should have blown for a foul on Lamella from Benteke, but he was weak and didn't. He then gets sent off for Mason trying to headbut him. Benteke shouldn't raise his hands, but Mason, Spurs best player, should have walked too.

It changed the game. We lost Kane at a corner previously and losing Benteke as one of the zonal markers had a direct effect, as it was Agbonlahor who lost Chadli. Of course, 10 v 10 and I still think we would have won.

The winner, when it rains it pours.

I was scathing after QPR and Everton, but we created plenty of chances today and it's officials who have changed the game against us.

[LeeB]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

That's the interpretation.

The seven things that a player can be sent off for are:

• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

He'll be charged with violent conduct.

Thank you Dave, that's what I understood. The whole "he's put his hands up, he's got to go" is just a supposition imposed by shite commentators repeating each other endlessly whilst not having a fucking clue about the actual rules.

[villan from luton]

It was the 4th official mouthing at the ref that it was a red card, but obviously he ignored the face into the head, wanker

[pauliewalnuts]

We should have won that game and were going to do so until the sending off.

Spurs were very poor throughout in my opinion and looked pretty clueless second half. I said they'd bring Lamella on, but he did nothing and Benteke continued to give Kaboul nightmares. We created good chances in the first half with Lowton's crossing being largely good.

Other positives included N'Zogbia getting close to Benteke and also using the ball well too. He put in some decent crosses and I thought he was our man of the match. Andi too actually got close to Benteke.

Lowton worried me defensively with some weak clearances, as did Vlaar, who made a few poor decisions, Adebeyor's chance being one. But beyond that, we were the better side and right up until Benteke walked.

I thought Vertongen was lucky to stay on and I would like to see it again. The referee should have blown for a foul on Lamella from Benteke, but he was weak and didn't. He then gets sent off for Mason trying to headbut him. Benteke shouldn't raise his hands, but Mason, Spurs best player, should have walked too.

It changed the game. We lost Kane at a corner previously and losing Benteke as one of the zonal markers had a direct effect, as it was Agbonlahor who lost Chadli. Of course, 10 v 10 and I still think we would have won.

The winner, when it rains it pours.

I was scathing after QPR and Everton, but we created plenty of chances today and it's officials who have changed the game against us.

Despite all that, we managed one shot on target.

[villan from luton]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

[olaftab]

When you lose games as lamely as we do, losing them narrowly and unjustly doesn't make it any better

This.

[Richard E]

Bemoaning a plucky defeat at the hands of the referee. Oh my God, we're turning into West Bromwich Albion!

[curiousorange]

I hate putting defeats down to bad luck, but the way Villa attract misfortune these days, I honestly do wonder if it's worth getting an exorcist in.

[pauliewalnuts]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

One shot on target again.

It's the same thing over and over again. Something has got to change, because we're just circling the plug hole waiting to go down at the moment.

[VillaAlways]

Regardless of the improved performance it's meaningless.When have we ever built on good performances/ results under Lambert? He really needs to go

[villan from luton]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

One shot on target again.

It's the same thing over and over again. Something has got to change, because we're just circling the plug hole waiting to go down at the moment.

I actually thought some of the football was decent today

[andyh]

The clubs worse run for 46 years!
Let's not let a red card detract from the real problems at the club.

[lovejoy]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

That's the interpretation.

The seven things that a player can be sent off for are:

• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

He'll be charged with violent conduct.

Thank you Dave, that's what I understood. The whole "he's put his hands up, he's got to go" is just a supposition imposed by shite commentators repeating each other endlessly whilst not having a fucking clue about the actual rules.

This is my point. This raising your hand is an automatic red just exists inside Jamie Redknapp's head. He's either too thick or to lazy to properly understand the rules.
If a small slap is violent conduct so is head to face, 2 footed lunge and persistent shoving. Didn't hear that mentioned though.

[rob_bridge]

I hate putting defeats down to bad luck, but the way Villa attract misfortune these days, I honestly do wonder if it's worth getting an exorcist in.

We aren't Small Heath with their gypsy curse