Aston Villa vs Tottenham Post-Match Thread

[Kingthing]

Could have, would have, should have!

Big improvement in commitment but fuck me we're worlds apart from so many teams in that league in terms of passing and thinking, time after time there was an obvious ball to be played that wasn't.

There's something about being so shit that brings people together, West Ham was the turning point with Houllier a couple of years ago, we've almost sold out, I suggest we just try and get drunk and enjoy ourselves.

[lovejoy]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

[tomd2103]

Reading the match reports, everyone thinks we were hard done by, that the red was harsh and that we were the better team until it happened. Even if the red was warranted, Lambert set up the team in a way which paid off, and he can hardly be blamed for our best player being silly. I think we need to be honest with ourselves - I don't particularly want Lambert as Villa manager, but he was unlucky today.

He was, but today was the least we should expect, a coherent team playing with purpose.

Show that in the next 4 games or so and he'll start to get me back. I won't hold my breath though.

I don't think we were particularly coherent and still looked disjointed on the whole.  The change today was that Benteke was back somewhere close to his best form and that makes such a difference.

[myf]

Apparently 13 games we've failed to beat spurs. what's our record number of top flight consecutive defeats?

[Monty]

Reading the match reports, everyone thinks we were hard done by, that the red was harsh and that we were the better team until it happened. Even if the red was warranted, Lambert set up the team in a way which paid off, and he can hardly be blamed for our best player being silly. I think we need to be honest with ourselves - I don't particularly want Lambert as Villa manager, but he was unlucky today.

Maybe so Monty, but we still reverted to type after we scored and seemed happy to sit back rather than continue to get at Spurs.  There's just a total lack of ambition running through the club. 

I really disagree with that. Sure, Spurs came back into it, they're a good team in desperate form, and we're in bad form as well and best at counterattacking, so there was nothing odd in that pattern asserting itself. Besides, we created quite a few opportunities between the goal and the red card. It was the sending off which turned the game, particularly as it was our best player getting ejected. That's the only valid analysis of the game, I think.

[LeeB]

I hope that snidey little twat from Spuds enjoys telling his colleagues at Southend in a couple of years how he once got Benteke sent off.

[Rigadon]

Reading the match reports, everyone thinks we were hard done by, that the red was harsh and that we were the better team until it happened. Even if the red was warranted, Lambert set up the team in a way which paid off, and he can hardly be blamed for our best player being silly. I think we need to be honest with ourselves - I don't particularly want Lambert as Villa manager, but he was unlucky today.

He was, but today was the least we should expect, a coherent team playing with purpose.

Show that in the next 4 games or so and he'll start to get me back. I won't hold my breath though.

Bang on.  Committed, high tempo and joined-up?  That really isn't cause for celebration (I'm sure Monty isn't by the way) at home against a mediocre side. Let's not have any of this top-6 nonsense: Spurs are massively average this time out.

Villa needed a win today and lost again.  So, that the performance wasn't abject is of small comfort.  A win, followed by 3 or 4 convincing performances is the bare minimum I need to see to give me any confidence Paul Lambert won't get us relegated.

[Meanwood Villa]

We were unlucky but at the end of the day it's another defeat and we still get no points.  Incredibly we could well be "good" enough to stay up but one thing that is clear after the initial burst of optimism this season is that it's going to be endless weeks of mainly fucking dross. Again.

[villan from luton]

Only read a few comments and have to say while Benteke was an idiot, that little cockernee shit should have gone as well, even then it would have been a result for them as Benteke was causing them huge problems. I thought we played some decent football, would still have Cleverley in the centre as he is creative, thought he did an excellent job today. Fucking fuming tbh as we had that game in the bag and honestly only saw us scoring again. As for the manager, I thought his post match comments were bang on, unlike the Spud manager who was like the ref and 4th official who didnt see the initital incident. Fucking disgraceful refereeing

[Rudy65]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

[Clampy]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

I've seen it back now and considering the ref didn't even book the Spurs player just proves how much of it he actually saw, in which case a yellow card apiece would have been probably the best course of action.

[pauliewalnuts]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

I've seen it back now and considering the ref didn't even book the Spurs player just proves how much of it he actually saw, in which case a yellow card apiece would have been probably the best course of action.

https://vine.co/v/OOXPU5umvmM

That's two red cards, I reckon.

Benteke was a fucking idiot. You can't touch someone's face like that and expect to not get sent off. The problem is, you also can't stick your head in someone's face like that and not get sent off, but that is what happened to Mason.

It doesn't excuse or explain our failure to even hang on for a point, but they both deserved red, if you ask me.

[LeeB]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

Can you point me to it?

[pauliewalnuts]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

Can you point me to it?

See above.

It was a red.

[Dave]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

That's the interpretation.

The seven things that a player can be sent off for are:

• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

He'll be charged with violent conduct.