Aston Villa vs Tottenham Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

So, after Burnley, we've got the equal worst goal difference in the division with QPR.

And next up two games against the two form teams of the Premier League.  It could very well be 8 losses in a row.  What is our record for most losses in a row?

That would be 11.

[PaulWinch again]

Ah another record, worst run for 47 years. Excellent.

[Eigentor]

It seemed as if we (at least Weimann and Cleverley) tried to carry out the Roy Keane school of referee intimidation. But that only works if the team is Man Utd and the manager is Alex Ferguson. Instead we got the ref against us. I'm not gonna criticise Benteke, allthough he shouldn't have done what he did. It was an even match against two poor teams out of form, and we had the upper hand until the ref changed the game. I'm not gonna be too downbeat about the performance or the effort, it was as good as one can expect from a team that has lost five times on the trot.

[not3bad]

When you under the cosh, nothing goes for you.  Absolutely nothing.

[Ron Manager]

Somehow I dont think Norman Hunter would have prospered in the modern game. Or Andy Lochhead!

[Risso]

So, after Burnley, we've got the equal worst goal difference in the division with QPR.

And next up two games against the two form teams of the Premier League.  It could very well be 8 losses in a row.  What is our record for most losses in a row?

That would be 11.

When was that out of interest?  Surely even Lambert can't be THAT dismal?

[pauliewalnuts]

Even though that performance was far better than I expected, it was still a standard Villa performance - play half decently, panic because you don't think you can sustain it, get shafted by some refereeing decision that you need to put out of your mind, retreat behind the ball and hope for the best.

It is also worth noting that against QPR for the first 20 minutes we played very well, too.

How much is that really worth though?

I'm sure Burnley could point to the odd 15/20 minute purple patch here and there.

Most relegated sides aren't completely dreadful in every minute of every game they play too.

They're dreadful for long enough to ultimately come a cropper though, and we have that look about us. 

Maybe there will be three teams even worse than us again this year, but we are wretched.

It is worth absolutely nothing, that's the point I was making. Just like playing well for a full 90 minutes (Liverpool) is worth fuck all if you then lose six matches in a row, playing well for twenty minutes or so is just not enough, I'm afraid.

Even with the sending off, there were three points there for the taking today. We lacked the maturity to not go down to 10 men in the first place (and Benteke was always going to be sent off the minute he touched his face, although Mason should have gone too), and we then - and this is the entirely predictable bit - lacked the brains and the nous to see out what remained of the game.

The whole argument re us being unlucky is highly iffy. Yes, we were unlucky Mason didn't get sent off as well, but in a match against truly feeble opposition - having a bad day even by their own feeble standards - we conspired to lose for the sixth time on the bounce.

Lambert will say we were hard done by, and on Mason not getting sent off, we were, but it was the same old shit otherwise, awful opposition who had 62% possession against us, we manage 1 shot on target all match, yet still find ourselves needing to hold out for a short while, and STILL lose.

It'd be more acceptable if it was a one-off result, but that is six matches in a row now. It is so far off acceptable, it is untrue, yet we're trapped with this manager who just goes on and on showing he isn't up to the job.

[Legion]

I thought the referee and his so-called assistant on the Trinity Road touchline were shocking.

[PaulWinch again]

Spurs were the worst side I've seen us play this season, easily.

They did not deserve to win by any stretch of the imagination.

They did, though. We had, what, another six or seven minutes to usher out for the three points. We are just so fucking feeble, disorganised, unconfident.

We were unlucky as well today, yes, but this is a six match run of defeats. What about the other five?

This is the thing, Spurs were woeful and we still lost. Not good enough and yet another cataclysmic run of defeats under Lambert.

[PeterWithesShin]

So, after Burnley, we've got the equal worst goal difference in the division with QPR.

And next up two games against the two form teams of the Premier League.  It could very well be 8 losses in a row.  What is our record for most losses in a row?

That would be 11.

When was that out of interest?  Surely even Lambert can't be THAT dismal?

62/63. Here is the run we had then

23.03-A Fulham 0-1
29.03-A Blackpool 0-4
01.04-H Everton 0-2
06.04-A Burnley 1-3
09.04-H Manchester U 1-2
13.04-H Sheffield W 0-2
15.04-A Wolves 1-3
16.04-H Wolves 0-2
20.04-A Bolton 1-4
01.05-A Sheffield U 1-2
04.05-H Nottingham 0-2

[Fin Feds Dad]

Referee was awful today - Bentekes sending off was a direct result of the Ref losing control of the game after failing to send off Vertonghen for his 2 footed lunge on Westwood.

You know it's a bad challenge when all the players react - to give him just a yellow was a disgrace .

The big fella didn't help himself by pushing the Spurs player in the face - but his face was put in Bentekes face first - that was the initial movement .

Taking off nzogbia and putting on Gabby was a huge mistake - their first goal came from Gabby not reacting to a loose ball on the edge of our area - and then watch gabbys 'marking' at the resulting corner - tosser

[McRusson]

I'm too aggravated by the bullshit bottle out referee to give any thought to our failings.  The yellow card for Vertonghen seemed to give Spurs the signal that they could get away with murder and they did. God I hate them.

Me too, I absolutely loathe Spurs.

And their stupid wanky slow song. Behind the obvious few suspects Spurs are right up there in my "Bunch of Wankers" league.

It is by a long, long way, the biggest c***s trick of a song known to man.

remember that awful anthem of Coventry's? There'd be an audible groan from the Holte when that dog of a song started cranking up

[E I Adio]

I thought we played some reasonable stuff, at least by this season's standards and certainly I felt we were the better team overall. Benteke allowed himself to be provoked, which was just bloody stupid, unnecessary and very, very annoying especially as he'd shown some form. I'm not sure what to say about Sanchez. He was a liability with his reckless tackling, so what happened in the end was not any sort of surprise. Piss poor refereeing as well.

[TopDeck113]

I haven't been on here in recent weeks, certainly not with regard to the football, but after this last week surely Lerner has to squeeze the trigger? Ok we were probably a little unlucky today; but six defeats on the spin in not unlucky. It speaks of a malaise that borders on ineptitude.  This is no longer the same old week-in, week-out: it's now the same old season-in, season out.  If there isn't a new owner just over the horizon, then at least let's have a new approach down at Bodymoor Heath and in the dugout on match days.  It's not defeats that are currently killing the Villa, it's the lack of any hope that things are going to get better.

[levico]

Tom Ross thinks Lambo is rock solid no matter how bad we get.