QPR v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

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Vlaar did not get out-muscled by Zamora at any time in the game  The goal came from it bouncing off his chest as he was not going anywhere-a bit like the ball. Clark was the one at fault for leaving a big gap between himself and Austin. It was however a well taken but fortunate goal.
I expected a defeat but was actually surprised to see some good performances. Sanchez and Cleverley were very good and bossed the middle. Matt made a good replacement for Hutton. If  the crossing had been better and Benteke had a few more games under his belt we would have won that game in a canter.
For me the weakness is Gabby and Weimann. For all their huff, its mostly puff. Buy two high class midfield attackers to replace them and we will do a lot better.

Couldn't disagree more.

Zamora just eased Vlaar out. It was fucking diabolical defending.

[Walmley_Villa]

Vlaar did not get out-muscled by Zamora at any time in the game  The goal came from it bouncing off his chest as he was not going anywhere-a bit like the ball. Clark was the one at fault for leaving a big gap between himself and Austin. It was however a well taken but fortunate goal.
I expected a defeat but was actually surprised to see some good performances. Sanchez and Cleverley were very good and bossed the middle. Matt made a good replacement for Hutton. If  the crossing had been better and Benteke had a few more games under his belt we would have won that game in a canter.
For me the weakness is Gabby and Weimann. For all their huff, its mostly puff. Buy two high class midfield attackers to replace them and we will do a lot better.

Couldn't disagree more.

Zamora just eased Vlaar out. It was fucking diabolical defending.

Yes, he was poor most of the game and Clark shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the pitch at either end.

[Ron Manager]

Vlaar did not get out-muscled by Zamora at any time in the game  The goal came from it bouncing off his chest as he was not going anywhere-a bit like the ball. Clark was the one at fault for leaving a big gap between himself and Austin. It was however a well taken but fortunate goal.
I expected a defeat but was actually surprised to see some good performances. Sanchez and Cleverley were very good and bossed the middle. Matt made a good replacement for Hutton. If  the crossing had been better and Benteke had a few more games under his belt we would have won that game in a canter.
For me the weakness is Gabby and Weimann. For all their huff, its mostly puff. Buy two high class midfield attackers to replace them and we will do a lot better.

Couldn't disagree more.

Zamora just eased Vlaar out. It was fucking diabolical defending.

It was indeed shocking defending of the highest order.

[chrisw1]

We didn't play well last night but neither did we play particularly badly. The problem is after the run we have had this was supposed to where things changed.

We had plenty of the ball and a number of shots on target but for the most part looked laboured. Although it was a smart finish it was a poor first goal from our point of view. Zamora is a big bloke so it is inevitable he is going to win his fair share, what you have to do is anticipate and block the second ball but he had acres to steady himself and pick his spot. You can't help but think Senderos would have been alive to it. After that they could put 10 men behind the ball and frustrate us. Then Sanchez makes a complete pig's ear of a ten yard pass and they score another goal - yes he might have been tired but then doesn't begin to explain such a poor effort.

I agree with this.  Up to the first goal we looked tidy and in control.  Lots of neat passing and a few sorties into their box.  Contrary to most others opinion (it seems) I thought Westwood looked very good in this period and Weiman very busy.

Their goal came from nowhere and after that they played deep.  The disappointing thing is we just didn't have the guile to break them down.  Benteke was anonymous.  Their second goal was a bad mistake and, to be fair, superbly executed. 

[Clampy]

I just get the feeling that we're really going to tank somebody about 6 or 7 nil soon. You can see it coming.

I don't know about that but I can see QPR getting hammered one of these weeks. I thought they were awful.

[ChicagoLion]

Vlaar was not great but the first goal was down to Clark, Zamora had his back to goal and did not score, he gave the ball to his team mate in acres of space as Clark, inexplicably had run away like a school girl being menaced by a tramp.

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I just get the feeling that we're really going to tank somebody about 6 or 7 nil soon. You can see it coming.

I don't know about that but I can see QPR getting hammered one of these weeks. I thought they were awful.

This is what makes last night all the worse. QPR are fucking dire. Absolutely shite and thankfully the wankers will be relegated and we won't have to stump up the best part of £50 for their poxy little shit hole of a ground a stand in their "Gold" seats.

Any half capable side would have battered them. In fact, any of the sides in the top six of the Championship would have twatted them. They will get bummed silly in their next two games as well.

But what do we do? Domiante possession for the first time in however long and spend the best part of the game scratching our heads as to what we actually do with it.

Gabby when played up front is too far from Benteke
Weimann, when supposed to be playing wide, drifts in
Cleverley is inexplicably shunted wide
The full backs, especially Lowton, refused to take the full back on and opted for the early cross
Westwood is far too slow in moving the ball on
We play with no width and when chasing the game make subs that make us narrower

What do we plan at Bodymoor Heath?

[SashasGrandad]

Vlaar did not get out-muscled by Zamora at any time in the game  The goal came from it bouncing off his chest as he was not going anywhere-a bit like the ball. Clark was the one at fault for leaving a big gap between himself and Austin. It was however a well taken but fortunate goal.
I expected a defeat but was actually surprised to see some good performances. Sanchez and Cleverley were very good and bossed the middle. Matt made a good replacement for Hutton. If  the crossing had been better and Benteke had a few more games under his belt we would have won that game in a canter.
For me the weakness is Gabby and Weimann. For all their huff, its mostly puff. Buy two high class midfield attackers to replace them and we will do a lot better.

Every time Gabby and Weimann got the ball they were clattered by a QPR player (both ended up limping) and they wimped out and did not take them on.

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Vlaar was not great but the first goal was down to Clark, Zamora had his back to goal and did not score, he gave the ball to his team mate in acres of space as Clark, inexplicably had run away like a school girl being menaced by a tramp.

The pressure on Austin should have come from Westwood, but the goal comes because Bobby fucking Zamora, without having to get off the ground, eases "World Cup Legend" Ron Vlaar out, far, far too easily. Vlaar should have been lynched.

[citizenDJ]

Vlaar did not get out-muscled by Zamora at any time in the game  The goal came from it bouncing off his chest as he was not going anywhere-a bit like the ball. Clark was the one at fault for leaving a big gap between himself and Austin. It was however a well taken but fortunate goal.
I expected a defeat but was actually surprised to see some good performances. Sanchez and Cleverley were very good and bossed the middle. Matt made a good replacement for Hutton. If  the crossing had been better and Benteke had a few more games under his belt we would have won that game in a canter.
For me the weakness is Gabby and Weimann. For all their huff, its mostly puff. Buy two high class midfield attackers to replace them and we will do a lot better.

Couldn't disagree more.

Zamora just eased Vlaar out. It was fucking diabolical defending.

It was indeed shocking defending of the highest order.

It's tthis sort of thing which is why I think Vlaar is largely overrated by a lot of our fans. I think he's mediocre, which sadly makes him one of our better players but not really a very good one.

[Clampy]

I just get the feeling that we're really going to tank somebody about 6 or 7 nil soon. You can see it coming.

I don't know about that but I can see QPR getting hammered one of these weeks. I thought they were awful.

The full backs, especially Lowton, refused to take the full back on and opted for the early cross
Westwood is far too slow in moving the ball on

About three or four times in the first half, Lowton had acres of space to run into and decided to cross early, a few of which just hit their full back.

Westwood for me is our weak link. Sanchez could do his job eventually and he'll do it better.

[Ron Manager]

We didn't play well last night but neither did we play particularly badly. The problem is after the run we have had this was supposed to where things changed.

We had plenty of the ball and a number of shots on target but for the most part looked laboured. Although it was a smart finish it was a poor first goal from our point of view. Zamora is a big bloke so it is inevitable he is going to win his fair share, what you have to do is anticipate and block the second ball but he had acres to steady himself and pick his spot. You can't help but think Senderos would have been alive to it. After that they could put 10 men behind the ball and frustrate us. Then Sanchez makes a complete pig's ear of a ten yard pass and they score another goal - yes he might have been tired but then doesn't begin to explain such a poor effort.

I agree with this.  Up to the first goal we looked tidy and in control.  Lots of neat passing and a few sorties into their box.  Contrary to most others opinion (it seems) I thought Westwood looked very good in this period and Weiman very busy.

Their goal came from nowhere and after that they played deep.  The disappointing thing is we just didn't have the guile to break them down.  Benteke was anonymous.  Their second goal was a bad mistake and, to be fair, superbly executed.

I too thought both Westwood and in particular Sanchez looked very good up to around the 64th minute. But everybody up front was ineffective. Weimann tries hard with limited skills. Gabby has his new four year contract so he is happy and Benteke should be putting himself about but he didnt . We are,just like last season,in big trouble. But at least Lamberts had a shave. Perhaps he can get rid of those glasses and get last seasons pair back on. At least they suited him.

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Agreed, I thought Sanchez, mistake apart, looked head and shoulders above Westwood. He moves the ball quicker and is physically a lot more capable of covering the back four. It gives us a platform, but then there is so little in front of him, that we struggle.

Why shunt Cleverely out wide? Why not play Gabby or Bacuna, or Grealish or N'Zogbia? Players with pace and who can do something in that position? Especially when it means you sacrifice a player who can move the ball on quickly in midfield for Westwood who cannot.

[ChicagoLion]

Vlaar was not great but the first goal was down to Clark, Zamora had his back to goal and did not score, he gave the ball to his team mate in acres of space as Clark, inexplicably had run away like a school girl being menaced by a tramp.

The pressure on Austin should have come from Westwood, but the goal comes because Bobby fucking Zamora, without having to get off the ground, eases "World Cup Legend" Ron Vlaar out, far, far too easily. Vlaar should have been lynched.

Watch the replay, Zamora does not score.

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Vlaar was not great but the first goal was down to Clark, Zamora had his back to goal and did not score, he gave the ball to his team mate in acres of space as Clark, inexplicably had run away like a school girl being menaced by a tramp.

The pressure on Austin should have come from Westwood, but the goal comes because Bobby fucking Zamora, without having to get off the ground, eases "World Cup Legend" Ron Vlaar out, far, far too easily. Vlaar should have been lynched.

Watch the replay, Zamora does not score.

I watched it from 20 yards away.

 Ron fucking blancmange Vlaar wants lynching, the useless fucking ******. To be eased out by a journeymen so easily was a disgrace. Vlaar could remonstrate with Westwood all he wants, but it was his job, as captain and "leader" to deal with the supply to Austin and cut out an aimless punt. He couldn't, the overrated twat.