Aston Villa vs Arsenal Post-Match Thread

[dave.woodhall]

Overt Away fans in home areas is just a no no. West ham found out last season when a couple of theirs took a few slaps as they ran out of the Doug Ellis

You approve of football violence then do you?

No. Nor do I approve of arrogant blasé away fans winding up home fans in a home section.

It's alright for them to "take a few slaps" then. How DARE they watch a football match.

[PeterWithesShin]

Overt Away fans in home areas is just a no no. West ham found out last season when a couple of theirs took a few slaps as they ran out of the Doug Ellis

You approve of football violence then do you?

It's not really organised violence or anything though, plus, imo, if you sit in the wrong end and act a twat you can hardly complain if someone takes the hump.
I remember smacking someone in the late 90s in the Lower Trinity when playing Manure. They scored and two blokes sat next to me went up in the air giving it the big one and I twatted one and then went after the other. I'm not condoning it, or particularly proud of it, but if i'd done the same in the wrong end I wouldn't be complaining if someone gave me a dig for it.

[silhillvilla]

Exactly. It's hardly blazing squad stuff is it.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Yeah, what's the fuss?, it's just a bit of common assault.  And anyway, they're not even human beings are they, opposition fans? Have you heard the language from some of these fuckers?!  They come here, wanting to watch their team play football, the arrogant bastards, if they find themselves in the wrong seat and they dare to move when their team scores then they can't complain if their teeth are smashed down their throats, if I went to their ground and did the same I'd expect to be brutally beaten, I'd actually feel like I deserved it.  I'd probably laugh it off.  I certainly wouldn't come on here complaining about it and calling their entire club scumbags afterwards, definitely not.  I'm no thug, but I'll happily punch anyone with a scarf that isn't claret and blue until they're in a coma.  Serves them right.  It's football, not ballet.

[PeterWithesShin]

Yes, because that's exactly what I said.

I've been stood/sat next to away fans numerous times over the years at VP , and had no problem with them as the vast majority are smart enough not to take the piss if they score, same was as anyone with an iota of intelligence behaves. I'm sure many of us have been in the wrong end in the past and used common sense.
I do however have a problem with away fans in the home ends, especially when they are sat next to me taking the piss and goading home fans. So yes, if I jumped up in the middle of the home fans and called them ****** as I flicked the Vs at them then I would expect someone to have a dig.  And I wouldn't be a hypocrite and whinge about it afterwards.
The above scenario is what the 2 Manc fans did when they scored, so I had a go back. I didn't have a dig just because they were away fans watching a game.

[Witton Warrior]

On more than one occasion we have helped opposition fans who have strayed into home areas - they usually seem grateful. It is the ones who have obviously come to take the piss like the Manure fans last season loudly proclaiming VP a "shit hole" and pushing people about I take issue with.

I don't like bullies whatever team they support.

[Ger Regan]

I was over for the game with a couple of my mates.

First off, one of my friends couldn’t find his passport, so ended up booking a second flight with aer lingus that cost around 200 euro. Then when he got to the airport on Saturday morning, his mistook a ticketless flight for one not needing a boarding card / check in. By the time he realised his mistake, the check in desk had closed and they wouldn’t let him check in. So he ended up getting another flight that left Dublin at 2:10, meaning he only made it to the ground in time for the second half. I’ve only just stopped laughing.

As for the game, it really was 3 minutes of madness, we were definitely the better team for the first half hour, but things went south after that. I couldn’t understand the lethargy in the second half, but the virus probably explains a good proportion of that.

A 3-0 defeat is always difficult to take, but given the circumstances I’m not going to give them too hard a time over it. Fingers crossed that it clears up soon, otherwise i fear for next weekend.

[Ger Regan]

As for away fans in home areas, I saw two guys in their mid-40's giving a father and son (who was around 6 or 7) grief in the holte concourse. The kid looked absolutely petrified. Presume those 2 heroes felt good about themselves afterwards.

[Ads]

Violently approaching morons who make themselves known as away fans in home areas can solve future problems.

I am minded of that night in March 2003, where amongst other things, I learnt that the stairs in the upper Witton are made of rubber, as one particularly foolish Noses managed to bounce down each one of the steps. He was one Nose amongst many who had bought all the nonsense and thought he could come to B6 and take the piss.

The next year, and every year after, they turned up on 40 odd coaches and there hasn't been a serious incident at Villa Park involving the Noses since.

[brian green]

Back in the day when 60,000 would be in Villa Park for a Man Ure game the party trick of the Mancs was to occupy the top section of the Holte and throw their empty beer bottles at the heads of the Villa fans below. Animosities towards away fans are historic and run deep.

[PaulWinch again]

As for away fans in home areas, I saw two guys in their mid-40's giving a father and son (who was around 6 or 7) grief in the holte concourse. The kid looked absolutely petrified. Presume those 2 heroes felt good about themselves afterwards.

I absolutely hate that sort of thing, that kid will be terrified of football now.

[supertom]

I don't know what would possess someone to sit in the home section if they're away fans. Okay, if they're watching the game with a home supporter that's one thing, and they need to be wary of their surroundings, or wary of Ads and PWS at least (ha ha). But larger groups of away fans coming into the Holte is barking mad and asking for trouble. Would they try the same at Millwall? I doubt it very much.  They know what they're doing.
Occasionally you may get a visiting foreigner unaware of the rules, who's come to watch a bit of Soccerball. But the vast majority who do it are fully aware of what they're doing. If trouble brews and gets out of hand too, it doesn't do anyone any favours, not least to the notion to some that football fans are uncouth violent bastards who need to take sporting etiquette lessons from Rugby fans.

[supertom]

As for away fans in home areas, I saw two guys in their mid-40's giving a father and son (who was around 6 or 7) grief in the holte concourse. The kid looked absolutely petrified. Presume those 2 heroes felt good about themselves afterwards.

I absolutely hate that sort of thing, that kid will be terrified of football now.

It's pathetic behaviour really, but the father should certainly have known better.

[Pete3206]

I have no problem whatsoever with mouthy, arrogant away fans getting chinned. Let's face it, it would be them doing the chinning, if was the other way round.

Any other football supporter is welcome to sit wherever they want in my book and that includes the Arsenal fan who sat next to me on Saturday.

[PaulWinch again]

I went into the away end at Southampton last year when they beat us 4-1(horrible day), but me and my mate were pretty respectful and the fans were fine with us. There was however another Villa fan who was being a complete twat and he was lucky he didn't get punched.