Tonev... alleged racist abuse (7 match ban)

[paulcomben]

Why all this talk of sacking him? John Terry never faced the sack and he racially abused people he actually knew. His punishment is the 7 game ban.

[cdbearsfan]

John Terry plays for a scummy club with no morals, and a history of racism. Most employers have policies enabling them to sack people for racism. He's shit anyway so no loss.

[supertom]

He should be sacked for falsely claiming to be a footballer. He makes Ali Dia look like Pele.

[PaulWinch again]

The thing is if he made racist remarks he should rightly be punished. However this talk of the sack is convenient on the basis of him being awful, but if hypothetically Benteke made a racist remark would people want him sacked?

[cdbearsfan]

If Benteke made a racist remark there would be some debate. I'd probably want him sacked to be honest, but others would argue that he should be kept on, on the basis of his value to the club. In this case there is no debate that I can see, as he has no value to the club anyway.

To twist your argument, if a member of the Villa catering staff racially abuses a fan on Sunday, would you want them sacked? I think it would be expected.

[edgysatsuma89]

The thing is if he made racist remarks he should rightly be punished. However this talk of the sack is convenient on the basis of him being awful, but if hypothetically Benteke made a racist remark would people want him sacked?

Oh definitely not. But I'm glad he has (in a mischievous way). This Tom Fox really is good with money. On the blower every day, grooming him with a fake fascist idealogy. Hook, line and sinker.

[PaulWinch again]

Well this is it there can't be one rule for someone who's deemed important and then people who are of less importance. I guess it also depends on whether we believe someone can make a mistake and have a chance to redeem themselves if they are suitably aplogetic.

[edgysatsuma89]

Well this is it there can't be one rule for someone who's deemed important and then people who are of less importance. I guess it also depends on whether we believe someone can make a mistake and have a chance to redeem themselves if they are suitably aplogetic.

Unfortunately it will always be the way with valuable assets. Look at Liverpool with Suarez, he made them title contenders, they were never going to sack him. Honestly, if we had someone that talented, that pushed us into the higher summits, you'd like to think you would go 'oh we should get rid' on moral grounds, but would you? Honestly?

Fortunately it's just Tonev 😀

[PaulWinch again]

I think a 7 match ban is fine, but there should be some sort of enforced education built into the punishment as well.

[cdbearsfan]

The seven match ban was enforced by the Scottish Football Association. They're not his employer, Aston Villa are. So we have taken no action against him.

I'd like to think we wouldn't be the sort of club that takes no action against a racist employee.

If proven guilty, pending his appeal, obviously.

[barrysleftfoot]

 As far as i understood it was one persons word against another, no proof, no witnesses, no audio evidence, in other words no proof of guilt.

 We had this before with Mikel and Clattenburg?......if hes guilty, then prove it, otherwise just leave him alone.

[peter w]

It does seem odd. Was there a referee's report based on what a linesman heard or anything similar?

[lovejoy]

Will the SFA give details of how they reached their conclusion? If guilty then he should be got rid of but I have yet to see the proof behind it.

[olaftab]

If guilty? He has been found guilty by a judicial panel so let's not argue on that. The next step now is that he should start his rehab by accepting his punishment and seek help. I don't think we should sack him as he is a young man and hopefully will learn his lesson.

[lovejoy]

If guilty? He has been found guilty by a judicial panel so let's not argue on that. The next step now is that he should start his rehab by accepting his punishment and seek help. I don't think we should sack him as he is a young man and hopefully will learn his lesson.

Do we know anything of the evidence presented?