Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[mattjpa]

much happier with loan, Keane will make him sign if he's any good

Keano is a dab hand with a car battery.

What a strange saga this one is, but I have always, always said how much I rated him. Always. Top, top, top player.

Am I the only person to think this guy is an oderous little prick? Surely wanting to play for the club is on a par with ability? He didnt and so he shouldnt. Maybe with him in the first team we may finish 13th instead of 15th. Big f'ing wow. Id rather support a team consisting of players I respect

I don't see the issue. He wanted to play for Everton, who will likely finish in the top six and where he wouldn't have to move house. So would I in his position and so would you.

Its Merseyside, Im sure he could have commuted. He didnt sign for us because we wouldnt give him 60k per week and thinks he can do better. I cant see him giving us 100%, thats my main issue

[Richard E]

The ever-hilarious Oliver 'Mrs O'Neill' Holt has tweeted that Man U have made it a condition of the deal that he plays for us against them. Ha bloody ha.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

A loan until January with a buy-then option would be the best of both worlds and a good deal for us.

True, but the fact he can talk to other clubs come january might be a problem.

*starts frantically trying to remove new TC23 tattoo*

[eamonn]

Surely we are paying a hefty loan fee? Going from spending £8m on him to nowt isn't likely, is it? (unless we've agreed to pay all his wages instead of signing him on a long-term deal and getting him to take a pay-cut)

[Chico Hamilton III]

I don't blame Cleverley for wanting to join Everton ahead of us and when that didn't happen being happy to go with his second choice, us. It's no different to one of us having 2 potential job offers at the same time and wanting one more than the other. Doesn't mean you have no interest in the second choice, or that you wouldn't be happy working there.

So it's human nature to want to go for the best wages available ( although I'm sure Joe Cole and Super mario at Liverpool might argue with that). No problem with that

It's also human nature for football fans to hate the greedy bastard players who do it. I wouldn't criticise anyone on here for thinking that TC is just like the majority of other money-obssessed average Joes in the premier league who don't really give a shit about the fans who "pay their wages".

That's the way it goes - and if he scores a few goals before fucking off in January then fair enough

Well without wishing to sound like some old git (I am under 40) there is absolutely no connection anymore between fans and players. They live in a completely different stratosphere to us.

Supposedly Z Fryers turned up at Palace in a Bentley Continental yesterday. He has achieved fk all in the game and probably has no great motivation to going forward.

exactly! so why we shoud be expected to accept Cleverley without being able to criticise him is beyond me. He'd be training at Halewood this morning, given half a chance.

 

[edgysatsuma89]

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Its Merseyside, Im sure he could have commuted. He didnt sign for us because we wouldnt give him 60k per week and thinks he can do better. I cant see him giving us 100%, thats my main issue

I live in the northwest and its a fucking ball ache driving to home games or games down south thanks to the M6. I missed 15 minutes of the game on Sunday because so many cap ends cannot fathom that there is really no need to slam on a slow down to 40 mph through the chevrons between J19-18.

I also cannot stand the ball ache in moving house. I hate painting and decorating too. Its tedious.

I also enjoy my employers paying me as much as possible and I want to work for the best employer possible. [Stop me if you're in disagreement here]

Why should it be different for Cleverley? Why are footballers governed by rules different from the rest of society when it comes to their jobs? Its not his fault you're in love with Aston Villa.

[Ian.]

Ace!! I never expected this!

Happy days if true, I have feeling he will be solid for us.

Legion, you was right after all, a proper ITK from day one. Admin will be jealous with your scoop.

[Toronto Villa]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

in the end being a loan it could turn out much more in our favour. It's also possible that the club in paying a loan fee knocks down the final transfer fee also if things go well, and it will be that much closer to the end of his contract.

[bobdylan]

Its Merseyside, Im sure he could have commuted. He didnt sign for us because we wouldnt give him 60k per week and thinks he can do better. I cant see him giving us 100%, thats my main issue

I live in the northwest and its a fucking ball ache driving to home games or games down south thanks to the M6. I missed 15 minutes of the game on Sunday ebcause so many cap ends cannot fathom that there is really no need to slam on a slow down to 40 mph through the chevrons between J19-18.

I also cannot stand the ball ache in moving house. I hate painting and decorating too. Its tedious.

I also enjoy my employers paying me as much as possible and I want to work for the best employer possible. [Stop me if you're in disagreement here]

Why should it be different for Cleverley? Why are footballers governed by rules different from the rest of society when it comes to their jobs? Its not his fault you're in love with Aston Villa.

I think Cleverley can afford to get a firm in to paint his walls.

[UK Redsox]

Da Beeb says that the proposed loan is until January

YellowtiesRUs says that the proposed loan is for the season.

[edgysatsuma89]

I don't have an issue with him wanting to go to everton, but i still think he's a bell end. The TC23 is embarrassing (although probably like most footballers).

He'll want to make sure he plays well fast though, i don't think many will give him much time. He'll be wishing he was still a scapegoat.

Hope it works out if it happens.

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Its Merseyside, Im sure he could have commuted. He didnt sign for us because we wouldnt give him 60k per week and thinks he can do better. I cant see him giving us 100%, thats my main issue

I live in the northwest and its a fucking ball ache driving to home games or games down south thanks to the M6. I missed 15 minutes of the game on Sunday ebcause so many cap ends cannot fathom that there is really no need to slam on a slow down to 40 mph through the chevrons between J19-18.

I also cannot stand the ball ache in moving house. I hate painting and decorating too. Its tedious.

I also enjoy my employers paying me as much as possible and I want to work for the best employer possible. [Stop me if you're in disagreement here]

Why should it be different for Cleverley? Why are footballers governed by rules different from the rest of society when it comes to their jobs? Its not his fault you're in love with Aston Villa.

I think Cleverley can afford to get a firm in to paint his walls.

But then he has to clean the room out and its the ball ache of your house being a tip while the workman fit your kitchen, your bathroom. Ball. Ache!

[aev]

I don't have an issue with him wanting to go to everton, but i still think he's a bell end. The TC23 is embarrassing (although probably like most footballers).

He'll want to make sure he plays well fast though, i don't think many will give him much time. He'll be wishing he was still a scapegoat.

Hope it works out if it happens.

Agreed - TC23.....ffs.

I reckon they earn so much cash that the sycophants that surround them dare not tell them that they are acting like bell ends.

[PeterWithesShin]

exactly! so why we shoud be expected to accept Cleverley without being able to criticise him is beyond me. He'd be training at Halewood this morning, given half a chance.
 

Should we criticise Vlaar and Benteke for coming to us for more money than they were on at their previous clubs? How much of a shit did Benteke give to Genk fans who paid his wages?