Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[aev]

much happier with loan, Keane will make him sign if he's any good

Keano is a dab hand with a car battery.

What a strange saga this one is, but I have always, always said how much I rated him. Always. Top, top, top player.

Am I the only person to think this guy is an oderous little prick? Surely wanting to play for the club is on a par with ability? He didnt and so he shouldnt. Maybe with him in the first team we may finish 13th instead of 15th. Big f'ing wow. Id rather support a team consisting of players I respect

I don't see the issue. He wanted to play for Everton, who will likely finish in the top six and where he wouldn't have to move house. So would I in his position and so would you.

And throw in the fact that in a years time he can move for free and presumably expect a bumper contract somewhere......

All of us are greedy, and footballers would obviously be no different.

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't blame Cleverley for wanting to join Everton ahead of us and when that didn't happen being happy to go with his second choice, us. It's no different to one of us having 2 potential job offers at the same time and wanting one more than the other. Doesn't mean you have no interest in the second choice, or that you wouldn't be happy working there.

[aev]

much happier with loan, Keane will make him sign if he's any good

Keano is a dab hand with a car battery.

What a strange saga this one is, but I have always, always said how much I rated him. Always. Top, top, top player.

Am I the only person to think this guy is an oderous little prick? Surely wanting to play for the club is on a par with ability? He didnt and so he shouldnt. Maybe with him in the first team we may finish 13th instead of 15th. Big f'ing wow. Id rather support a team consisting of players I respect

I don't see the issue. He wanted to play for Everton, who will likely finish in the top six and where he wouldn't have to move house. So would I in his position and so would you.

And throw in the fact that in a years time he can move for free and presumably expect a bumper contract somewhere......

All of us are greedy, and footballers would obviously be no different. If he could hang about for a while at the cockney reds to potentially double his salary at his next club then it is pretty understandable.

[Clark W Griswold]

My my, it's certainly changed on here. I hope the deal gets rejected for the hopeless little fuck.

[aev]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I don't blame Cleverley for wanting to join Everton ahead of us and when that didn't happen being happy to go with his second choice, us. It's no different to one of us having 2 potential job offers at the same time and wanting one more than the other. Doesn't mean you have no interest in the second choice, or that you wouldn't be happy working there.

So it's human nature to want to go for the best wages available ( although I'm sure Joe Cole and Super mario at Liverpool might argue with that). No problem with that

It's also human nature for football fans to hate the greedy bastard players who do it. I wouldn't criticise anyone on here for thinking that TC is just like the majority of other money-obssessed average Joes in the premier league who don't really give a shit about the fans who "pay their wages".

That's the way it goes - and if he scores a few goals before fucking off in January then fair enough

[Lee]

I don't blame Cleverley for wanting to join Everton ahead of us and when that didn't happen being happy to go with his second choice, us. It's no different to one of us having 2 potential job offers at the same time and wanting one more than the other. Doesn't mean you have no interest in the second choice, or that you wouldn't be happy working there.

Yep, agree with that. I'd be happy to have him here even just in the short term. The wages are the wages. I'm sure Villa knew what he was on prior to any approach.

[OCD]

much happier with loan, Keane will make him sign if he's any good

Keano is a dab hand with a car battery.

What a strange saga this one is, but I have always, always said how much I rated him. Always. Top, top, top player.

Am I the only person to think this guy is an oderous little prick? Surely wanting to play for the club is on a par with ability? He didnt and so he shouldnt. Maybe with him in the first team we may finish 13th instead of 15th. Big f'ing wow. Id rather support a team consisting of players I respect

I don't see the issue. He wanted to play for Everton, who will likely finish in the top six and where he wouldn't have to move house. So would I in his position and so would you.

As well as playing for a manager that he's worked with before who has a passing philosophy (as opposed to one who in previous seasons has opted to bypass the midfield as much as possible).

[pauliewalnuts]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

[aev]

I don't blame Cleverley for wanting to join Everton ahead of us and when that didn't happen being happy to go with his second choice, us. It's no different to one of us having 2 potential job offers at the same time and wanting one more than the other. Doesn't mean you have no interest in the second choice, or that you wouldn't be happy working there.

So it's human nature to want to go for the best wages available ( although I'm sure Joe Cole and Super mario at Liverpool might argue with that). No problem with that

It's also human nature for football fans to hate the greedy bastard players who do it. I wouldn't criticise anyone on here for thinking that TC is just like the majority of other money-obssessed average Joes in the premier league who don't really give a shit about the fans who "pay their wages".

That's the way it goes - and if he scores a few goals before fucking off in January then fair enough

Well without wishing to sound like some old git (I am under 40) there is absolutely no connection anymore between fans and players. They live in a completely different stratosphere to us.

Supposedly Z Fryers turned up at Palace in a Bentley Continental yesterday. He has achieved fk all in the game and probably has no great motivation to going forward.

[dave.woodhall]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

A loan until January with a buy-then option would be the best of both worlds and a good deal for us.

[joe_c]

I will be annoyed if he comes in and uses us to then get to Everton for the second half of the season. I hope we have got some assurances about his longer term commitment.

Yep. Considering that Man U accepted the bid we tabled in the first place, I get the impression it's a loan on the basis of an agreement to make the deal permanent in January. If the deal does get rubber stamped I just hope he doesn't turn out as useless as many people are painting him.

[Ger Regan]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

A loan until January with a buy-then option would be the best of both worlds and a good deal for us.

True, but the fact he can talk to other clubs come january might be a problem.

[aev]

I think £8m was an awful lot of cash for someone in the last year of their contract.

If this deal goes through and it ends up being a loan, then it is much more palatable.

A loan until January with a buy-then option would be the best of both worlds and a good deal for us.

Agreed - he would be an improvement on what we have and hopefully he is motivated enough to want to improve and move his career forward.

[Villa in Denmark]

Isn't there a separate window for short term loans as opposed to season long loans?

Thinking about I thought you could only arrange season long loans between PL clubs.

Alternatively I'm just talking out of my arse.