Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[silhillvilla]

If Tom Cleverley does sign for us, why do I have this horrible gut feeling that he will be another that really doesn't want to be here? 

I made this point a few pages back and I don't think this dimension of the deal can be under-estimated. It's Stephen Ireland II. Virtually the same fee and wage no doubt, Manchester - Birmingham , Sky4 club - us, the similarities are scary.

[Legion]

Stephen Ireland came as part of a 'package' (probably against his wishes), though.

[silhillvilla]

Based on cleverleys comments the other month, I don't think he's busting a gut to leave Yanited.

[Percy McCarthy]

If Tom Cleverley does sign for us, why do I have this horrible gut feeling that he will be another that really doesn't want to be here? 

I made this point a few pages back and I don't think this dimension of the deal can be under-estimated. It's Stephen Ireland II. Virtually the same fee and wage no doubt, Manchester - Birmingham , Sky4 club - us, the similarities are scary.

I very much doubt that Cleverley, or anyone else on the planet for that matter, is as much of a wanker as Ireland.

[Toronto Villa]

Based on cleverleys comments the other month, I don't think he's busting a gut to leave Yanited.

Why would he be? He's at one of the biggest clubs on the planet having been there through some of their most successful years and being paid well. He's been at the club since he was a kid and is likely very settled there.

[Steve67]

Based on cleverleys comments the other month, I don't think he's busting a gut to leave Yanited.

Sit there and not play, or revamp his career and play lower down? Tough choice as he is at what he might think is the pinnacle in terms of the club he is at. However, he's a reject for them and will need to take this in to consideration. Whatever happens, his United career is over and he'll be moving on.

[saunders_heroes]

He won't be the first player ever to leave Man Utd who didn't want to. And there's been plenty who've gone onto have decent careers as well.

[themossman]

Benteke doesn't want to play for us and probably never has or will. Why would any player "want" to play for villa over another team unless they were a childhood fan? And is it relevant? Are players with low opinions of themselves who are honoured to play for the mighty villa a better bet? Like lowton? To be honest I'd have thought there's an inverse relationship between quality of footballer and willingness to play for us.

[silhillvilla]

Benteke came from a small team in Belgium did the business and wanted a move after 9 months. He's yet to replicate that form for us to be honest.

[olaftab]

Well some footballers are professional let's hope Cleverley is. I hate badge kissers.

[olaftab]

Benteke came from a small team in Belgium did the business and wanted a move after 9 months. He's yet to replicate that form for us to be honest.

He has. Unfortunately he has been unlucky with injuries. But if you remember Norwich at home he was on fire just getting back to full fitness and then he got injured again.

[Clampy]

Benteke came from a small team in Belgium did the business and wanted a move 
after 9 months. He's yet to replicate that form for us to be honest.

You're beginning to post stuff just to get a reaction and to be honest, it's starting to get a bit boring.

[dave shelley]

If I had been good enough to play pro football and the club I was at no longer wanted me, should another club show that they do and offer me acceptable terms then, I would bust a gut to give that club everything I could for as long as I could.

Back in the real world, I was once made redundant and a man from another garage heard about it and rang me.  He said that he didn't have a job to give me but if I called in on Monday we could have a chat.  At that meeting he said I could come in each Monday and lend a hand.  I went in on that Monday and worked there every working day for nearly six years.  For that six years I gave everything I could for that man in total appreciation that he found a job for me that, in reality he didn't have.

My point is, the situation didn't really suit me but I appreciated it and it allowed me to move on when the time was right.

Different times and, I think different values.

[pauliewalnuts]

If Tom Cleverley does sign for us, why do I have this horrible gut feeling that he will be another that really doesn't want to be here? 

I made this point a few pages back and I don't think this dimension of the deal can be under-estimated. It's Stephen Ireland II. Virtually the same fee and wage no doubt, Manchester - Birmingham , Sky4 club - us, the similarities are scary.

Dear oh dear, what nonsense. Roughly the same fee and leaving a Manchester club so the similarities are "scary"?

Why can't you just say you don't want us to sign him and be done with it rather than lay all this nonsense on top?

I'm not that keen on the deal myself, as are plenty of us, but don't feel the need to add this sort of histrionic nonsense to the discussion.

It's like you have to plumb a new low of misery on pretty much every subject.

[saunders_heroes]

Benteke came from a small team in Belgium did the business and wanted a move after 9 months. He's yet to replicate that form for us to be honest.

He's picked up 2 bad injuries in that time though.