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Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #240 on: August 28, 2014, 09:11:41 PM »
Assists can be misleading though. He could play a killer ball or go on a great run, ball then goes to player x who does a basic pass it to player b who scores, it's player x gets the official assist. Hopefully that makes sense.

Manure should keep him then as they are crap

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #241 on: August 28, 2014, 09:11:57 PM »
Kevin...Kevin...Kevin...stop bringing your common sense to a internet forum...
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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #242 on: August 28, 2014, 09:12:51 PM »
I'm amazed at the negativity on this. Never has an opinion on a player been so skewed by the media than that of Tom Cleverley. He was very highly regarded when he broke into the Manchester Utd team that was consistently in the top 2 of the Premier league. Unfortunately he failed to quite live up to his early promise and couldn't hold a regular first team place, but he is still a very very good footballer.

How many people can honestly say they have watched him play live for 90 minutes?

He is a significant upgrade on what we have now and I for one would be delighted if we sign him. A midfield 3 of Delph, Sanchez and Cleverley sounds pretty healthy to me. It's fashionable to deride Cleverley. He was hounded out of the England squad, and people have jumped on the bandwagon. Give him a chance and he might just prove you wrong.

I don't agree with the clamber for a striker. I think width is a much greater priority and sort that out and we should do alright this year.

My manure mate here sitting next to me , says he's garbage

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #243 on: August 28, 2014, 09:15:36 PM »
Assists can be misleading though. He could play a killer ball or go on a great run, ball then goes to player x who does a basic pass it to player b who scores, it's player x gets the official assist. Hopefully that makes sense.

Don't they keep NHL type stats for second-assists in football?

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #244 on: August 28, 2014, 09:17:35 PM »
A midfield 3 of Delph, Sanchez and Cleverly sounds pretty healthy to me.

Have to say, I don't see much creativity in that midfield.

As you said, width (or, in wider terms, some creativity) is what we need.

If we were signing Cleverley for a couple of million, it'd be different, but I think in these times of much limited money, part of the concern is that we are spending so much of it on a player who isn't really of the type we need.

re how many people have watched him play for 90 minutes - lots, i'd have thought, given who he has been playing for.

well Sunderland away was just 4 days ago and he was one of the worst players on the pitch.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #245 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:24 PM »
My man utd season ticket holding bro in law rates him.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #246 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:34 PM »
Remember the Belgian poster who said Benteke was shit when we signed him and at most he was worth a million?

There is a reason we pay to watch football rather than get paid to be coaches, scouts etc. We as fans don't actually know as much as we like to think we do. We'll also have massively differing opinions on the same player even when faced with the same evidence.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #247 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:46 PM »
If your Yanited supporting mate is from Hinkley too, then I am surprised you are bothered by his opinion.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #248 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:56 PM »
I think there is always an element that if as a younger player they show promise it is about how to get it out of them. 18 months ago Ramsey was being booed by his own fans when brought on in again. Now he is probably the most highly valued player in their squad.

Not sure if Cleverly has it in his locker, but 1 in 3 at Watford, and seeing him miss numerous chances playing for England suggests he is decent at getting into goalscoring positions given the chance. Maybe he needs to be the main man. You never know. I will bet 1 thing though, if he goes to Everton by May we will be moaning that we didn't get him. 

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #249 on: August 28, 2014, 09:20:33 PM »
Assists can be misleading though. He could play a killer ball or go on a great run, ball then goes to player x who does a basic pass it to player b who scores, it's player x gets the official assist. Hopefully that makes sense.

Exactly.  As I did earlier with Alonso it's not hard to find top quality midfielders who don't get assists.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #250 on: August 28, 2014, 09:20:37 PM »
My man utd season ticket holding bro in law rates him.

He's got his fingers crossed hoping this happens

They are over the moon on the forums , can't believe 8 milllionn

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #251 on: August 28, 2014, 09:21:02 PM »
Some good news from The Mail -

"Everton have a long-held interest in Cleverley and are understood to be the player's preferred destination should he leave"

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #252 on: August 28, 2014, 09:21:39 PM »
If your Yanited supporting mate is from Hinkley too, then I am surprised you are bothered by his opinion.


Birmingham actually and the twit goes to OT ;)

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #253 on: August 28, 2014, 09:22:45 PM »
As I thought, his opinion doesn't count.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #254 on: August 28, 2014, 09:22:57 PM »
Some good news from The Mail -

"Everton have a long-held interest in Cleverley and are understood to be the player's preferred destination should he leave"



;)

 


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