Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[ozzjim]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

[SoccerHQ]

Underwhelmed.

A midfield who dosen't score or create enough, we have too many of them. Time will tell but this strikes me as an indication Delph isn't going to sign a new deal.

I suppose short term he'll take Westwood's place but again Sanchez-Delph- Cleverley...where is the creativity in that?

[pauliewalnuts]

If Everton are in he is not going to come here

If Everton go for him is he still as shit as people have suggested?

It isn't really that complicated, though - surely people are capable of judging a player by what they have seen of him actually playing?

Cleverley plays for the most visible club in our league, it's not as if people are moaning about some Azerbaijani midfielder with a YouTube clip, is it?

I've never understood fans of a specific club having a strong view of a player they only see occasionally on TV or through clips from YouTube. Especially when the club he plays for had its worst year in the past 20, and he had an injury for a good percentage of it. And the year prior he had a role in his club walking the league. And how shit can he really be if with all of those resources Ferguson still trusted and played him?

The Ferguson argument is meaningless, though. You might just as well point at Bebe and say "well, Ferguson bought him" or point at any one of his signings which didn't work out.

I don't see how you can just write off seeing a player on TV - this is a player we've seen play an awful lot, both for Man United and for England. I don't think he's abysmal, I don't think he's the worst player, but I also don't really think he's very good, and I am basing that on what I have seen of him, which is a lot.

If this were Helenius people were talking about when we signed him, or Luna, or lots of players, and they were saying he's rubbish, then I too would be sceptical, given the hugely limited chances people will have had to see those players, but this is a player we have all seen god knows how many times, for club and country.

I think it's a bit harsh to go the "Now Everton want him is he still shit?" line - maybe we should just at least trust that people are actually expressing an opinion they hold based on seeing the player, rather than one which will sway with the wind based on who else wants him.

[Ron Manager]

Now if Van Gaal was to let us have Valencia for 8mil I for one would be estatic. But the thought hasn't crossed his mind.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

If he bought Cleverley today and then went and spent 7m on a striker, he'd still be missing the most important player we need to sign.

[olaftab]

If Everton are in he is not going to come here

If Everton go for him is he still as shit as people have suggested?

Noooooo then he will potentially be a world great due to the fact that genius Martinez has chosen him.

[SoccerHQ]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

If he bought Cleverley today and then went and spent 7m on a striker, he'd still be missing the most important player we need to sign.

Nah we'll just continue to hoof the ball forward for our clueless forward runners to chase after, that counts as "creativity" in Lambert's mind I think.

Incredible to think we've spent 15m in the last year on Cleverley and Kozak and just ignored the attacking midfield option.

[JUAN PABLO]

We don't need him neither

We do with Gardner gone and if KEA does go. I'm fine with the player, £8m just sounds a bit much.

Kind of agree clampy ..   two million at most

[Ron Manager]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

If he bought Cleverley today and then went and spent 7m on a striker, he'd still be missing the most important player we need to sign.

Jason Scotland?

[Legion]

Stephen Ireland?

[olaftab]

Maybe at his age he isn't ready for the big pond and isyet to develop from the big fish in the little pond. A good chance for him to move his career on if he does come to Villa. No pressure on him but at a club big enough to allow his caeer to develop at the (almost) highest level.I'd love him to join.

Yes but for £4M or loan with an option to buy in Jan.

[Steve67]

Why can't we sign a player who isn't being scrapped by his club. Very ordinary. Waste of money when other positions need filling. Lambert is a clown. If Everton and hull want him. I wander what pull Keane may have. I also expect Everton to blow us away I the wages front.

[Le Lapin]

He'll go to Everton over us or Hull. Good player. Good pedigree. Would be a great addition to our squad. At least we are looking at a young player with premier league experience.

[ozzjim]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

If he bought Cleverley today and then went and spent 7m on a striker, he'd still be missing the most important player we need to sign.

I said forward.... I was hoping for a tricky, defence unlocking, small south American type. Not another Lambert "big un"!

[SoccerHQ]

Lambert knows he needs a forward too and said he is after 2 players. Maybe Randy has given him 15million to spend.

If he bought Cleverley today and then went and spent 7m on a striker, he'd still be missing the most important player we need to sign.

I said forward.... I was hoping for a tricky, defence unlocking, small south American type. Not another Lambert "big un"!

Ha he plays for West Ham. Sad state of affairs when even Big Sam is signing them.