Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[ozzjim]

It hasn't worked at United , so what? If it does happen lets give the kid a chance

I don't know why people say "give him a chance" - as if we have any option otherwise! If we sign him, we sign him.

I think it's all a bit mad, but as he won't come anyway I hope the money is spent on forward options and not on Spearing as a fall back option.

[pauliewalnuts]

If Everton are in he is not going to come here

If Everton go for him is he still as shit as people have suggested?

It isn't really that complicated, though - surely people are capable of judging a player by what they have seen of him actually playing?

Cleverley plays for the most visible club in our league, it's not as if people are moaning about some Azerbaijani midfielder with a YouTube clip, is it?

[Des Little]

As others have said, if Everton come in for him we can forget it.

[Kevilla]

Before the start of this season I would have much rather had Cleverley come here than Senderos, but he has started well and shows promise which I didn't expect. At all. I was praying we wouldn't get slaughtered too badly every week until we get to see properly whether Okore has what we all hope he has. Now I am worried that Okore won't get a proper look in and might start looking elsewhere in a year.

Cleverley has had his confidence slammed, and perhaps a different club will be good for him. I hope so. I am certainly prepared to wait and see. In the meantime, if he is coming to our fantastic club, then he is about to be a Villa player, and I will envy him and wish him all the best.

[SamTheMouse]

He's not shit, I don't think anyone's genuinely saying that, but the key question has to be: is he really any better than the players we already have in his position? He strikes me as yet another squad player, when surely last night's display was confirmation that there are other areas of the pitch we need to focus on much more urgently? We need someone who can play in Gabby or Weimann's role...

[peter w]

One of the things that sticks in my mind in his games for England is the regularity with which he broke into the box to get onto the end of some decent moves. That he missed was quite another thing...

[Toronto Villa]

If Everton are in he is not going to come here

If Everton go for him is he still as shit as people have suggested?

It isn't really that complicated, though - surely people are capable of judging a player by what they have seen of him actually playing?

Cleverley plays for the most visible club in our league, it's not as if people are moaning about some Azerbaijani midfielder with a YouTube clip, is it?

I've never understood fans of a specific club having a strong view of a player they only see occasionally on TV or through clips from YouTube. Especially when the club he plays for had its worst year in the past 20, and he had an injury for a good percentage of it. And the year prior he had a role in his club walking the league. And how shit can he really be if with all of those resources Ferguson still trusted and played him?

[Rudy65]

Utterly ridiculous if true. Lambert and the club owner have lost touch with reality.

Dammed if you do.....

Stupid comment

We all want to see some money spent but not on a player who is no better than Westwood

No, it's not a stupid comment. He's had stick over the summer for bringing in free transfers and not investing because he's looking to sell. Now he's backing his manager to the tune of a supposed £8m. It's irrelevant whether he's worth the money or not, at least the money is there.

So youre happy we are pissing £8m of what little money we have on a player who is inferior to Westwood?

If you rate Cleverly then fine, thats your view, mine is he's pants and we shouldn't touch him with a barge pole

[Toronto Villa]

Utterly ridiculous if true. Lambert and the club owner have lost touch with reality.

Dammed if you do.....

Stupid comment

We all want to see some money spent but not on a player who is no better than Westwood

No, it's not a stupid comment. He's had stick over the summer for bringing in free transfers and not investing because he's looking to sell. Now he's backing his manager to the tune of a supposed £8m. It's irrelevant whether he's worth the money or not, at least the money is there.

So youre happy we are pissing £8m of what little money we have on a player who is inferior to Westwood?

If you rate Cleverly then fine, thats your view, mine is he's pants and we shouldn't touch him with a barge pole

Fives minutes ago did you know we even had £8m? How do you know what "little money we have"?

[Risso]

I don't rate Westwood very highly, and would be surprised if Cleverley doesn't prove just how superior a player he is to Ashley.

[pauliewalnuts]

He's not shit, I don't think anyone's genuinely saying that, but the key question has to be: is he really any better than the players we already have in his position? He strikes me as yet another squad player, when surely last night's display was confirmation that there are other areas of the pitch we need to focus on much more urgently? We need someone who can play in Gabby or Weimann's role...

I more or less agree, but I don't even think it's mostly about whether he's any better, it's whether he's the player we need right now.

The mooted fee scares me. That's a lot of money for us these days. If it turns out we spunk it on a player who isn't really that much of an improvement on current players, and doesn't play in the positions we desperately need to strengthen, then that's something to worry about.

If he was coming on a free, it'd be different, but he's not.

[Clampy]

Utterly ridiculous if true. Lambert and the club owner have lost touch with reality.

Dammed if you do.....

Stupid comment

We all want to see some money spent but not on a player who is no better than Westwood

No, it's not a stupid comment. He's had stick over the summer for bringing in free transfers and not investing because he's looking to sell. Now he's backing his manager to the tune of a supposed £8m. It's irrelevant whether he's worth the money or not, at least the money is there.

So youre happy we are pissing £8m of what little money we have on a player who is inferior to Westwood?

If you rate Cleverly then fine, thats your view, mine is he's pants and we shouldn't touch him with a barge pole

Where have i said i rate him? I think £8m is too much as well. I'm just making the point that money has been made available.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

People do realise you're allowed to judge a player even if he hasn't played for us, right? Seems like some people think you should forget about the rest of his career.

Anyway, I hope Everton are in for him. He'll go there then.

[olaftab]

 £8M for Cleverley makes £60M for Di Maria look good value for money.

[peter w]

Maybe at his age he isn't ready for the big pond and isyet to develop from the big fish in the little pond. A good chance for him to move his career on if he does come to Villa. No pressure on him but at a club big enough to allow his caeer to develop at the (almost) highest level.I'd love him to join.