Delph contract worry

[supertom]

Disagree, I think it will simply come down to a cold decision around money. Whoever offers the most is where he will go.

I don't think it'd be that simple.

I think he'll be looking to play somewhere where he can compete for silverware, play in the Champions League, too. Two things which he clearly has zero chance of doing here.

Really don't see him as a top 5 player. Probably 6th -12th PL type player.

I think being a free agent will see him get a top 5 move probably. But I suspect he'll go the way of Sinclair, Johnson, etc, as opposed to Milner and Barry. Ultimately he'll be back at a 6-12 club in a couple of years. His touch and passing have to be much better to stay as a top 4 player.

[silhillvilla]

Agree, that first touch often gets him a booking. Liability at a higher level and in any proper England game too.

[supertom]

Agree, that first touch often gets him a booking. Liability at a higher level and in any proper England game too.

It's still a shame we can't lock him down and sell him on our terms. Were he under a longer contract and wanted to go we'd be looking at 10-15 for him, even given the fact he's not top 5.

I hope he stays but unless a takeover seems liklier he'll go, and good luck to him. Can't blame him at all.

[silhillvilla]

Absolute incompetence that contractually we've let him slip for free.

[ADVILLAFAN]

You couldn't blame him for moving on, we've waited until he has less than a year left on his contract to offer him a new deal and the club has been crap for about 4 years, with no sign of improvement.

[eamonn]

It's funny, his first touch. I've rarely seen a player who has such a bad first one but otherwise has lovely control of the ball.

[edgysatsuma89]

He's a Pochettino type player if ever i saw one.

[David_Nab]

Absolute incompetence that contractually we've let him slip for free.

Take our Milner /Downing /Young /Barry ( and even the profit on them was not huge ) and our outwards dealings have been appalling it's no wonder we have no bloody money season after season now.

[dave.woodhall]

Absolute incompetence that contractually we've let him slip for free.

Take our Milner /Downing /Young /Barry ( and even the profit on them was not huge ) and our outwards dealings have been appalling it's no wonder we have no bloody money season after season now.

On what planet didn't we make a big profit on those four?

[supertom]

Absolute incompetence that contractually we've let him slip for free.

Take our Milner /Downing /Young /Barry ( and even the profit on them was not huge ) and our outwards dealings have been appalling it's no wonder we have no bloody money season after season now.

On what planet didn't we make a big profit on those four?

We certainly mugged off Liverpool with Downing. I suppose you could argue had we sold Ash Young a season sooner he'd have been over 20 million. Possibly a similar argument with Gareth Barry.
Compared to their costs though, we did well. The replacements is another matter of course.

[Dave]

It's all relative. If you're comparing it to the profit that Spurs made on Bale or Man Utd made on Ronaldo then it wasn't huge.

If you're comparing it to 97% of transfers made then all four were pretty good.

In financial terms at least, it doesn't even bear thinking about what we did with the monies we received.

[supertom]

It's all relative. If you're comparing it to the profit that Spurs made on Bale or Man Utd made on Ronaldo then it wasn't huge.

If you're comparing it to 97% of transfers made then all four were pretty good.

In financial terms at least, it doesn't even bear thinking about what we did with the monies we received.

I'm more concerned about not making anything on transfers since 2011.

[Clampy]

It's all relative. If you're comparing it to the profit that Spurs made on Bale or Man Utd made on Ronaldo then it wasn't huge.

If you're comparing it to 97% of transfers made then all four were pretty good.

In financial terms at least, it doesn't even bear thinking about what we did with the monies we received.

I'm more concerned about not making anything on transfers since 2011.

If we sold players on for profit, wouldn't we be accused of being a selling club?

[dave.woodhall]

Absolute incompetence that contractually we've let him slip for free.

Take our Milner /Downing /Young /Barry ( and even the profit on them was not huge ) and our outwards dealings have been appalling it's no wonder we have no bloody money season after season now.

On what planet didn't we make a big profit on those four?

We certainly mugged off Liverpool with Downing. I suppose you could argue had we sold Ash Young a season sooner he'd have been over 20 million. Possibly a similar argument with Gareth Barry.
Compared to their costs though, we did well. The replacements is another matter of course.

Therein lies the problem. We did well out of the four sales - Downing was a rare example of Scousers being the victim of a mugging, Barry was probably the only one who justified his eventual fee but at that point it was a buyer's market, Milner's a good player but never worth £26 million and if we'd got any more for Young the bastards would probably have took us to some sort of Trading Standards tribunal where we'd have had to give them their money back. The problem occured when it came to replacing them. 

[supertom]

It's all relative. If you're comparing it to the profit that Spurs made on Bale or Man Utd made on Ronaldo then it wasn't huge.

If you're comparing it to 97% of transfers made then all four were pretty good.

In financial terms at least, it doesn't even bear thinking about what we did with the monies we received.

I'm more concerned about not making anything on transfers since 2011.

If we sold players on for profit, wouldn't we be accused of being a selling club?

Possibly, but even some of our mid-range players we probably should have sold for more (or in some cases anything).
Trouble is if you're not Chelsea or Man City, and possibly Utd you're basically a selling club.
Sometimes you have to shift someone on whilst they're sellable, and use it to try and further your squad. Sometimes it works (Southampton) and sometimes it just turns out badly (Spurs).

It's all retrospect but had we sold Benteke in 2013 we could probably have bought 3-4 good players for what we'd have got. Whether we could trust Lambert to get adequate replacements is another argument though (of which the correct answer is no).