Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[olaftab]

I'm a lawyer. I haven't got any mates.

I should have known.
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[Chipsticks]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

[Richard E]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

I'd want to see a clear statement from the club as to whether they agree Everton are for sale or not.

[PeterWithesShin]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

Sign Shane Long for £12m.

[KevinGage]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

Do you believe our business so far this summer constitutes ambition?

[Chipsticks]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

Do you believe our business so far this summer constitutes ambition?

Yes, as I said a few pages back.

Finally signing experienced players and a holding midfielder. We have a better squad then 50% of the league at least, and we're in the process of trying to sell the club for the better. That's hardly going backwards.

What would you rather we did outside of spend 100's of millions? What is this 'ambition'?

[saunders_heroes]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

I know what you mean. 4 relegation battles on the trot. What more do the fans want??

[PeterWithesShin]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

I know what you mean. 4 relegation battles on the trot. What more do the fans want??

For us to improve like we seem to be trying to do?

[Percy McCarthy]

I think our overall match day fan base is poor. Even when we were skirting around 3/4 mid seasons in 2007/8/9 we didn't sell out other than when GH's turned up. That's the most disappointing thing about our city.

When we averaged 40,000 we sold out 11 times.

[Chipsticks]

Still want to know what people think we'd need to do before they consider us 'ambitious'.

I know what you mean. 4 relegation battles on the trot. What more do the fans want??

Again, we've greatly improved the squad. This is about this season not previous ones.

[KevinGage]

There is a fair bit of scope between £6 million total outlay and 100's of millions to spend and still be considered ambitious, rather than reckless.

Based on our business of the past few years, and with the new TV deal, I would have said a spend of £25-30 million wouldn't have been beyond us. Spend wisely, that is the sort of sum that could put us back in contention for European qualification. Not guarantee it, but give us the possibility. 

Spending what we have, and on who we have, indicates we're happy to tough it out again this season and remain in the league. That seems to be the goal, and for a club of our pedigree, it is about as far removed from ambition as you can get.

[PeterWithesShin]

It's not just transfer fees though is it. We've added a bunch of players to the wage bill and hardly shifted anyone of note this summer.

[Chipsticks]

Spending what we have, and on who we have, indicates we're happy to tough it out again this season and remain in the league. That seems to be the goal, and for a club of our pedigree, it is about as far removed from ambition as you can get.

I really disagree. From my perspective we've really improved the squad and I think the ambition from the club is top 10 from what we've seen so far.

[Toronto Villa]

I think there's a difference between our ambitions for this season and what our ambitions have become. I'd say our ambitions for this season would be to never again have a season like the previous three, consolidate and finish comfortably in mid table, maybe get a cup win. I'm not upset about having those ambitions. I am upset as to what our ambitions have become. That is where the ambitions I just stated would be considered a success.

I hope that as we now go forward, with or without Lerner, that our ambitions slowly get back to where they were in 2009 and climb from there.

[Chipsticks]

I think there's a difference between our ambitions for this season and what our ambitions have become. I'd say our ambitions for this season would be to never again have a season like the previous three, consolidate and finish comfortably in mid table, maybe get a cup win. I'm not upset about having those ambitions. I am upset as to what our ambitions have become. That is where the ambitions I just stated would be considered a success.

I hope that as we now go forward, with or without Lerner, that our ambitions slowly get back to where they were in 2009 and climb from there.

Me too, but we've taken about as much a step forward in that direction as we possibly could have this summer.