Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[Richard E]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

yep, because it's accurate

No, I agree. It was more a comment on the fact that we've had the Everton discussion about a million times now on this forum.

[ciggiesnbeer]

and that's my question. Beyond staying in this league what is the ambition of 13-14 clubs? It's the same as ours. That doesn't make it good or right. But it would take monstrous investment for all of those clubs and us to bridge the gap that now exists. What would constitute a statement of ambition for you? Genuine question. I know I'd like us to compete for a CL spot but it's not going to happen even if we went out and broke the bank for a couple of players. And if you want proof of that just look at what Man U are trying to do and two games in you can already see that it will take a lot more than just breaking transfer records to do it.

A couple of 10million plus signings would sure help.

However failing that, I agree there are 13 relegation battlers these days, however some are trying to play good football, others are ugly to watch.

I want us to play good football ("we are Aston Villa, we are passing the ball") and be comfortable mid table. I don't think thats asking the world. Right now we feel like one of those clubs which when playing a similar one you immediately change channel.

[peter w]

From 2013

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1573294-everton-fc-4-biggest-reasons-the-club-hasnt-been-bought-yet

[rob_bridge]

This is where we should have been two years ago.

Or even 3.5 years ago

[damon loves JT]

Sky have got what they wanted - a core of four big contenders whose games they can promote to a casual audience. The rest are just the opposition. That's us I'm afraid.

[rob_bridge]

and that's my question. Beyond staying in this league what is the ambition of 13-14 clubs? It's the same as ours. That doesn't make it good or right. But it would take monstrous investment for all of those clubs and us to bridge the gap that now exists. What would constitute a statement of ambition for you? Genuine question. I know I'd like us to compete for a CL spot but it's not going to happen even if we went out and broke the bank for a couple of players. And if you want proof of that just look at what Man U are trying to do and two games in you can already see that it will take a lot more than just breaking transfer records to do it.

A couple of 10million plus signings would sure help.

However failing that, I agree there are 13 relegation battlers these days, however some are trying to play good football, others are ugly to watch.

I want us to play good football ("we are Aston Villa, we are passing the ball") and be comfortable mid table. I don't think thats asking the world. Right now we feel like one of those clubs which when playing a similar one you immediately change channel.

Exactly. When McDoom was recruited it sent out a terrible message.

We have become Small Time and the Style of Football is irrelevant.

Jeeps we never had to be sanctimonious like the Bitters or Spuds about playing great style of football. We just played mostly decent stuff neutrals like to watch interspersed with some great stuff every few years.

[olaftab]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

Everton aren't really up for sale!

[Richard E]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

Everton aren't really up for sale!

House! What do I win?

[silhillvilla]

If Everton aren't for sale neither are we.

[SoccerHQ]

The game was crying out for Jack or Joe. Hopefully they become prominent in the team soon or we sign someone of their talent but halfway between both in age.

I'm sure one of them would've come on but we lost Cissokho so Baker had to be used.

Decent point and great to start with 2 clean sheets. Just a lack of creativity though and I can't see it being rectified on the budget Lambert has so hopefully Benteke can return soon and give us some spark upfront.

Still pretty happy with 4 point, hopefully we can beat Hull and then it will be an excellent start to the season.

[olaftab]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

Everton aren't really up for sale!

House! What do I win?

A weekend in Kryptonopolis for you and a mate. Send me a cheque for £100 to cover the expenses of providing flight and hotel details.

[john e]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

Everton aren't really up for sale!

House! What do I win?

Everton   (If they were up for sale )

[Richard E]

<cue somebody to post the usual 'Everton aren't really for sale' comment here>

Everton aren't really up for sale!

House! What do I win?

A weekend in Kryptonopolis for you and a mate. Send me a cheque for £100 to cover the expenses of providing flight and hotel details.

I'm a lawyer. I haven't got any mates.

[rob_bridge]

Sky have got what they wanted - a core of four big contenders whose games they can promote to a casual audience. The rest are just the opposition. That's us I'm afraid.

Maybe but we can still try and play football not the last 4 years of mostly crap.

[damon loves JT]

Sky have got what they wanted - a core of four big contenders whose games they can promote to a casual audience. The rest are just the opposition. That's us I'm afraid.

Maybe but we can still try and play football not the last 4 years of mostly crap.

I should hope so. But everyone from about eighth downward is so desperate not to lose, nobody wants to be the suckers who delight the neutrals by playing brave, entertaining football and getting relegated.