Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[rob_bridge]

Regarding the attendance, I think there were a number of factors. Firstly the drop in season ticket sales. Also people on holiday, game on TV and the knock on effect from that of an early kick off. Plus with three home games in a week if you want to miss one to ease the financial burden then the one live on TV would be the obvious choice. But even allowing for all that, if we want to maintain or improve our average gates then we need to win more home games. A biggish signing might help but it still comes down to people being fed up of seeing us lose so often.

Losing and playing shite. ONeills home record wasnt always great but always thought something could or would happen..

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't buy the on holiday line, are Villa fans the only ones who go on holiday this time of year as most other clubs didn't seem to lose thousands off their attendances? Cost me £13.80 to be sat in the Lower Holte so cost isn't always a factor either.

Perhaps it's a Birmingham thing for late August holidays? As I said earlier, I know 3 who normally go who were away and 1 who was at the cricket.

Of course it could also be an indication that crowds are going to be down this year, I just think there are enough mitigating factors that make it a bit early too draw any firm conclusions.

Small heath, Albion and so on don't lose thousands (cue obvious jokes) to people on holiday this time of year.

[pauliewalnuts]

As Damo said, if we want to improve attendances, we are going to have to stop being so shit at home and start to win more games.

We defended well yesterday but even there there was nothing to excite people - not a single shot on target. That needs to improve, hugely.

[silhillvilla]

That's the thing. Who'd bet against another 0-0 v Hull ?

[pauliewalnuts]

Regarding the attendance, I think there were a number of factors. Firstly the drop in season ticket sales. Also people on holiday, game on TV and the knock on effect from that of an early kick off. Plus with three home games in a week if you want to miss one to ease the financial burden then the one live on TV would be the obvious choice. But even allowing for all that, if we want to maintain or improve our average gates then we need to win more home games. A biggish signing might help but it still comes down to people being fed up of seeing us lose so often.

Losing and playing shite. ONeills home record wasnt always great but always thought something could or would happen..

In the MON years we were also showing ambition. These days our ambition seems to extend no further than avoiding relegation. Bar a couple of clubs we are the league's lowest spenders, this after three execrable seasons in which we were particularly poor at home.

It is no wonder crowds will be down. They held up well last year but let's not forget, there was still a fair amount of optimism after the first Lambert year, which will have helped maintain season ticket sales.

This summer there has been pretty much zero optimism and season ticket sales will have taken a hit.

[olaftab]

That's the thing. Who'd bet against another 0-0 v Hull ?

I will. How much?

[silhillvilla]

That's the thing. Who'd bet against another 0-0 v Hull ?

I will. How much?

The bookies are offering me 8/1. Can you better that ?
I'd also bet on a sub 30k attendance .

[olaftab]

Not being a Bookie I will offer you a straight £10 bet that it won't be 0-0 and another tenner that it will be over 30K?

[pooligan]

While this manager is in charge i think the attendances will continue to drop. Instead of trying to win ,he is more worried about not losing. Have my ticket for  Wednesdays match but i fear another Bradford ,Sheff Utd result .

[silhillvilla]

Not being a Bookie I will offer you a straight £10 bet that it won't be 0-0 and another tenner that it will be over 30K?

So I can bet you a £10 to win a £10 or I can put that bet with a bookie who will pay me £90 when it ends 0-0. Erm let me think about that .

[olaftab]

I think our overall match day fan base is poor. Even when we were skirting around 3/4 mid seasons in 2007/8/9 we didn't sell out other than when GH's turned up. That's the most disappointing thing about our city.

[dave.woodhall]

I think our overall match day fan base is poor. Even when we were skirting around 3/4 mid seasons in 2007/8/9 we didn't sell out other than when GH's turned up. That's the most disappointing thing about our city.

Which has been pretty much the case since 1897.

[Chris Smith]

I don't buy the on holiday line, are Villa fans the only ones who go on holiday this time of year as most other clubs didn't seem to lose thousands off their attendances? Cost me £13.80 to be sat in the Lower Holte so cost isn't always a factor either.

Perhaps it's a Birmingham thing for late August holidays? As I said earlier, I know 3 who normally go who were away and 1 who was at the cricket.

Of course it could also be an indication that crowds are going to be down this year, I just think there are enough mitigating factors that make it a bit early too draw any firm conclusions.

Small heath, Albion and so on don't lose thousands (cue obvious jokes) to people on holiday this time of year.

I have no idea if they do or don't but we do, in fact I have seen this same debate a number of times over the years on here.

As I said it might be a sign of something but one game on a Bank Holiday weekend with 2 further games to come in the next 7 days is too soon to be drawing conclusions, in my view.

[Chris Smith]

Not being a Bookie I will offer you a straight £10 bet that it won't be 0-0 and another tenner that it will be over 30K?

So I can bet you a £10 to win a £10 or I can put that bet with a bookie who will pay me £90 when it ends 0-0. Erm let me think about that .

Why not do both if you are so confident?

[kippaxvilla2]

It is quite simple really, give us a team that is competitive and entertaining and winning games at home regularly and crowds will come back.  Well to our normal 'high end' level - 36-40,000.