Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[nick harper]

Weiman's brain and feet never seem coordinated to me. Consequently, everything seems rushed with him and he plays a bit headless chicken. One 15 yard pass to n'Zog sailed into the Trinity in the second half because he failed to steady himself.

As for Agbonlahor, I agree with most posters. He has failed to move his game on and therefore has become less and less effective. The last 3 years have seen a steady decline and it looks terminal. Teams are so comfortable playing against him and he obliges by showing a lack of movement, anticipation and intelligence.

I'd sooner Lambert showed the same patience with N'Zog as he has with these two and play him off Benteke when the time comes.

[peter w]

Thought Gabby did fine myself. Starved of any service apart from one great cross that he really should have made more of (Cissokho)? But Colloccini did enough to put him off. Was always making himself available as an outlet and ran the channels well. That the ball very rarely found him is not a reason to beat him with the 'he's shit' stick that seems to be wielded but far too many. When Benteke is firt then I'd drop Weimann, Gabby wide and we'll score plenty.

I'm happy with his two games so far where we've created few good chances.

[myf]

Sanchez looked a class above the rest of our midfield. One of his first touches was a lovely pass to pick out a run into the box. Most everything he did looked simple and assured. he was clearly rusty but his class shone through imho.

On the negative side I couldn't help but compare him to Delph & Westwood and thinking to myself "You pair are nowhere near his ability".

Delph was the only attacking threat from midfield and made some positive runs second half. Sanchez had some good touches, especially his first, but to say he was a class apart is ott

[brian green]

You are very observant Olaf. I have watched Andi Weimann and wondered how is play can be so enthusiastic and energetic yet produce such small benefits. It is his attention span. The play as is unfolds around him seems to catch him unawares. As for the game, as you surveyed the wreckage of the season past last May you would have asked yourself what can we do to avoid relegation in 2015?  We needed to stiffen the defence and we needed to become less easy to beat. I am happy that those issues appear to be addressed (providing Ally's injury is not serious). We must now work on midfield creativity and if Cole can't be superglued back together yet again, find some guile before the window closes. The goals will come. Libor will score for fun.

[olaftab]

Sanchez will be fine and provide calm and stability however  I once again failed to see any sense in Lambert's subs. Removing N'Zogbia and moving Westwood to the right?  Richardson off and Bent on when really Gabby or Weimann should have gone however what's the point of Bent if you remove wide right and left players?

[silhillvilla]

At 0-0 at home with 15 mins to go , that's where Joe Cole comes in. Strange he didn't use him.

[Matt Collins]

I wonder if we'd settled for a draw hence the slightly negative subs. I had

Looking at the highlights I think we were a bit lucky to get a draw. Newcastle had three or four pretty presentable chances. We had n'zogbia's free kick. I can't remember another one

A good start to the season, especially if we best hull

But this squad of players is surely going to struggle in our September and October fixtures. We're not creating chances against mediocre sides.

We need more quality on the ball, in attacking areas.

[JUAN PABLO]

Just watched the game

Delphi,hutton,sisko were very good , defensively we looked great

No creativity again , not one shot on target at home is pretty poor , not as if Newcastle were that good.  Andi made the wrong decision-making so many times and was generally poor and gabby ,how he gets in the team at the moment.

What was the point of bringing bent on ,when we hadn't creative nothing before for the front men , if their was front men , he should have gone with jack .

So at least defence looks like a proper defence and Sánchez will be a hit ,and  four points I am happy with but we need some creativity in that team  , as soon as Charlie went off we lost all chance of any .

Hutton mom ,just edging Delph.



                                                         

[Marlon From Bearwood]

At 0-0 at home with 15 mins to go , that's where Joe Cole comes in. Strange he didn't use him.

I'm pretty sure he (or Grealish) would have come on, however Cissokho got injured so Baker had to come on and he was our final sub.

[silhillvilla]

At 0-0 at home with 15 mins to go , that's where Joe Cole comes in. Strange he didn't use him.

I'm pretty sure he (or Grealish) would have come on, however Cissokho got injured so Baker had to come on and he was our final sub.

Ah. That explains it.

[JUAN PABLO]

Benteke will struggle to score with the lack of quality around him, need to get two decent forwards and send Gabby and Weimann back to the reserves. They both need a reminder that they can be replaced.

Exactly

[Matt Collins]

I'm very much hoping we get at least one quality attacking player in before hull

But for the hull game we surely must start at least one of cole, grealish or whoever this new bod might be. Perhaps two of them

I think he might play Westwood sanchez and grealish though which means there'd be limited choice. Perhaps grealish for weimann.

The league cup game is a good opportunity to test cole and grealish. Surely both must start. Maybe bent too. Hull will be playing Europa league on Thursday so we have a massive opportunity to rack up three points.

[loughborough villain]

For me we are, at last, appearing to get our priorities right i.e. looking to be really hard to beat.  I can't recall how many times we have conceded the first goal in home games over the past few years but it would be more often than not and with the limited amount of craft in our squad chasing games will always be difficult.  Roy Keane has clearly helped from the point of view of getting some shape and discipline into the team, at one point yesterday he absolutely hammered Westwood for failing to cover a runner which is what he needs if he (Westwood) is to improve this part of his game.

I suppose the downside to the above is if there is no confidence in taking a risk to sacrifice the solidity to try to win games like yesterday. In my opinion putting Bent on yesterday was more of a statement that we were going for the win rather than a move to actually change anything, he is only effective with quality service which wasn't going to come from the team on the pitch, Grealish/Cole would, in my opinion, have shown more positive intent.

Overall quite happy with the first two outings of the season, I am certainly more confident that we won't get beaten by so many of the poorer sides this year, if we can add a few goals to our game there is no reason why we can't be comfortably mid-table.

Massive respect to Alan Hutton, I don't know him as a person but professionally to have come back from what he has been put through and to have shown the attitude (and performance) that he has in the last two games is outstanding, I doubt there are many more in the modern game who would have displayed this level of commitment, especially as he is playing for the same manager who wouldn't pick him previously. He has totally transformed my view of him, I am sure he will have some poor games but this sort of commitment will always be appreciated by me.

[JUAN PABLO]

Just in case you think they might show a bit of appreciation.

http://www.nufc-forum.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=54545.0

They mentioned our fans


keeping the ball, but their fans did it too. Weird how they didn't say anything about that

And kept saying we got a good record at villa anyway

What they forget is so have every other team

[Matt Collins]

It's odd they complained about us keeping the ball when we've spent so much of the last few year complaining because we can't keep it