Carlos Sanchez

[passitsideways]

Thought he was pretty much what it said on the tin when we bought him: did a good job breaking things up in midfield but always risking a foul in doing so, strong in the air, not really much of a passer once the space closes down.

[exigo]

It's not just his ability, it's the players around him. When he's got Cleverly and/or Delph in close proximity, he's solid at breaking up play and giving it to somebody else to do the fancy stuff. As soon as Cleverly went off yesterday (and it was also the case at Man U), he looks lost and becomes a liability.

[Risso]

I thought that after Richardson he was our worst player yesterday.  Not quick enough and loses possession in dangerous areas.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

His shooting however needs some serious work.

[silhillvilla]

His speed of thought and moving the ball on quickly needs a lot of work too.

[Risso]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

His shooting however needs some serious work.

Sorry Mark, but he was crap last night and I don't think saying so is stupid. His pass completion was 73%, lower than Delph and Cleverley which for the defensive player isn't good enough in my opinion. His misplaced passes often got us into trouble as well.

[Phil from the upper holte]

I like him but as others have said, he can be a right liability

[supertom]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

His shooting however needs some serious work.

Sorry Mark, but he was crap last night and I don't think saying so is stupid. His pass completion was 73%, lower than Delph and Cleverley which for the defensive player isn't good enough in my opinion. His misplaced passes often got us into trouble as well.

He gets caught on the ball on the edge of our box far too often too.

And indeed, if he's always done for after 60 minutes, he really shouldn't be starting every game as it makes him a liability. We essentially have to waste a sub every game were we to replace him whenever he gets tired.

I think it's probably a case of a good player in the wrong league, at the wrong club. We've seen signs of his quality, but more often than not he's been a liability. We can't wait around for him to come good because as a persistent relegation battling side, we don't have the luxury of time. These mistakes could cost us our place in the league.

[adrenachrome]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

His shooting however needs some serious work.

Sorry Mark, but he was crap last night and I don't think saying so is stupid. His pass completion was 73%, lower than Delph and Cleverley which for the defensive player isn't good enough in my opinion. His misplaced passes often got us into trouble as well.

He gets caught on the ball on the edge of our box far too often too.

And indeed, if he's always done for after 60 minutes, he really shouldn't be starting every game as it makes him a liability. We essentially have to waste a sub every game were we to replace him whenever he gets tired.

I think it's probably a case of a good player in the wrong league, at the wrong club. We've seen signs of his quality, but more often than not he's been a liability. We can't wait around for him to come good because as a persistent relegation battling side, we don't have the luxury of time. These mistakes could cost us our place in the league.

I agree with all of this, but it raises the question of who is our DCM? Many successful teams have 2 of these for the 4-2-3-1 formation, but we have not a one. Petrov did it well for a while, but he was shoe-horned into the role which was not his natural position. Westwood? I think not. Delph. Ditto.

In fact, a few posters have suggested Herd or Clark which kind of proves my point.

Which is that TS may will be of the opinion that we need a player in this position and that Sanchez, for is all his limitations, is better than nobody at all..


 

[Clampy]

I think the pace of the game can be a little too quick for him at times. Petrov struggled with it for a while as well.

[supertom]

I've not seen too many players struggle with the pace of the league quite as much as Carlos.

As for the defensive midfielder situation. Not every club employs a destroyer, or even a deep lying midfielder. It seemed to be something that Timmeh was particularly keen on at Spurs either.
I think he'll probably look to bring in a couple of quality midfielders in the summer. We may go back for TC who's done alright. But I think we'll see Westwood and Sanchez get replaced by better.
Sherwood will probably look to get a couple of players up to Delph's standard. At that point he'll ever try a 3 man mid, or hope that we could play a 2 man more successfully if Delph's partner is up to par. If we play 2 at the moment, we don't have any combo's which are good enough. Sanchez in a two is a real liability.

[Legion]

Assuming we stay up, of course.

[supertom]

Assuming we stay up, of course.

Yes. Everything crossed. Rabbits foot rubbed raw. Deal with the devil. I've done it all.

[tomd2103]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

His shooting however needs some serious work.

It happens in almost every game and you can almost set your watch by it, yet neither Lambert or now Sherwood seem to act on it.  I thought he was OK the other night up until he began to tire and he needs to replaced as soon as he shows signs of flagging because he soon becomes a liability in that he gives the ball away in dangerous areas and lunges into tackles.  He has the physical and athletic attributes to play in the Premiership, he just needs to improve when in possession.         

[Dante Lavelli]

What we're seeing now with Sanchez is a pattern; come 60 minutes he starts making errors. It's obvious he's not fully fit, he's had a very long season. For those 60 minutes he's more than deserving of the shirt and the criticism of him on here goes from the unjust to the plain right fucking stupid.

Why Sherwood never replaces him on 60 minutes I have no idea. Yesterday on around 72 minutes Sanchez carelessly gave the ball away and Rangers nearly took full advantage. It happens almost every week at around the same time. Whilst on the pitch he's great at breaking down the opposition, his pass completion rate is normally up in the +90%, he covers a lot of ground and tries to always make himself available.

An interesting perspective.  It's also worth adding that once an athlete/footballer is exhausted then their decision making is one of the first things which suffers; so getting him fit may be worth persevering with.  I'd guess that most squads are doing minimal fitness work at this stage of the season, so match time is weirdly/dangerously his best opportunity.  Alternatively if Tim identifies this problem he should assign Sanchez additional fitness training.

It would be a shame to write him off after one season especially when there are mitigating circumstances (new club / following a world cup / Language etc) and on occasions he looks a quality player.