And he's played mf for France U21s.
I don't think he's been that bad since he's come back in and let's face it, it was either him or Richardson.
I think he offers nothing. I liken him to a mate that you bring along just to make up the numbers. Carl going forward, can't beat a man, not a great defender. However, lower down the league's, he might do ok. All about opinions I guess but I really don't rate him at all. Works hard enough but I'd prefer quality over quantity.
Hutton, Cissokho I am not to bothered if they do stay, at least they seem to have some form of professional pride, poor footballers technically but willing to put a shift in.
Sorry not saying you are unrealistic!