Aly Cissokho - sold

[villan from luton]

If he can recapture the form that made him one of the hottest prospects in Europe then he could be a fine addition.

I agree with this.  money i sight this window but we cannot have it both ways, by complaining about cheap young signings and also older free signings.  something has got to give...  Whether left back is the 'key' position is very debatable.

I am not defending the manager, but if you are given a real limited budget, what are you supposed to do? I actually think the squad looks stronger than this time last season. Hutton looks good, but at this time last season I wanted him sold as Lowton looks a class act. Not sure about the bomb squad thing and hopefully it is sorted.

[peter w]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

On the cynical side, you could say that Cissokho has been tried in this country - last season - and failed pretty badly.

On the positive side, you could say he deserves another chance and has a decent career behind him.

What I do find interesting is that it's another left back. Randy, with his current parsimonious stance towards the club, is going to have had Lambert come to him, and say "Yeah, I know I bought Joe Bennett, and I know the next year I bought Luna, and then I paid a loan fee to Chelsea to take Bertrand for a year, but now I want to buy another left back on a four year contract. Oh and we have another left back here already. Oh, and I bought Richardson last week and told him - as he told AVTV - he was coming here to play at left back".

Meanwhile, the first one he bought is still at the club and on the books, as is the one he inherited, and the second one he bought is only off on loan for a year, so no fee recouped there.

That's the sort of thing that makes me feel sorry for chairmen.

Again, on the bright side, if we're prepared to do this to sort out a position we've chucked loads of money at already, here's hoping that means we might address some of the positions where we really need people in.

[edgysatsuma89]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

On the cynical side, you could say that Cissokho has been tried in this country - last season - and failed pretty badly.

On the positive side, you could say he deserves another chance and has a decent career behind him.

What I do find interesting is that it's another left back. Randy, with his current parsimonious stance towards the club, is going to have had Lambert come to him, and say "Yeah, I know I bought Joe Bennett, and I know the next year I bought Luna, and then I paid a loan fee to Chelsea to take Bertrand for a year, but now I want to buy another left back on a four year contract. Oh and we have another left back here already. Oh, and I bought Richardson last week and told him - as he told AVTV - he was coming here to play at left back".

Meanwhile, the first one he bought is still at the club and on the books, as is the one he inherited, and the second one he bought is only off on loan for a year, so no fee recouped there.

That's the sort of thing that makes me feel sorry for chairmen.

Again, on the bright side, if we're prepared to do this to sort out a position we've chucked loads of money at already, here's hoping that means we might address some of the positions where we really need people in.

That's the thing, I'll reserve my judgement on this until the window closes. If he doesn't get some mids in then I'll look back on this in anger. If he spends money on some mids as well I'll think 'oo, good addition'.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

On the cynical side, you could say that Cissokho has been tried in this country - last season - and failed pretty badly.

On the positive side, you could say he deserves another chance and has a decent career behind him.

What I do find interesting is that it's another left back. Randy, with his current parsimonious stance towards the club, is going to have had Lambert come to him, and say "Yeah, I know I bought Joe Bennett, and I know the next year I bought Luna, and then I paid a loan fee to Chelsea to take Bertrand for a year, but now I want to buy another left back on a four year contract. Oh and we have another left back here already. Oh, and I bought Richardson last week and told him - as he told AVTV - he was coming here to play at left back".

Meanwhile, the first one he bought is still at the club and on the books, as is the one he inherited, and the second one he bought is only off on loan for a year, so no fee recouped there.

That's the sort of thing that makes me feel sorry for chairmen.

Again, on the bright side, if we're prepared to do this to sort out a position we've chucked loads of money at already, here's hoping that means we might address some of the positions where we really need people in.

That's the thing, I'll reserve my judgement on this until the window closes. If he doesn't get some mids in then I'll look back on this in anger. If he spends money on some mids as well I'll think 'oo, good addition'.

Yup, ultimately, it's the 9th today, that doesn't leave an enormous amount of time, but three weeks is enough to do something in without being too long to wait.

We'll find out how far our ambitions go in a few weeks, so it makes sense to wait and see.

[villan from luton]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

You may be out of sync, but given the mammoth sums of money involved in domestic transfers, would think you will find it hard to come up with a better option on a limited budget.

Pauliewalnuts, I agree with you in some ways and again am not defending the manager, I actually think Bennett has some talent. Bertrand or the the new lad, I would take the new lad. He seems to have a good attitude but we will have to wait and see. Remember Bertrand, the best left back performance I saw after January was Bennett v Chelsea, he was superb. I want players who want to play for the club

[ciggiesnbeer]

What I do find interesting is that it's another left back. Randy, with his current parsimonious stance towards the club, is going to have had Lambert come to him, and say "Yeah, I know I bought Joe Bennett, and I know the next year I bought Luna, and then I paid a loan fee to Chelsea to take Bertrand for a year, but now I want to buy another left back on a four year contract. Oh and we have another left back here already. Oh, and I bought Richardson last week and told him - as he told AVTV - he was coming here to play at left back".

Meanwhile, the first one he bought is still at the club and on the books, as is the one he inherited, and the second one he bought is only off on loan for a year, so no fee recouped there.

That's the sort of thing that makes me feel sorry for chairmen.

Well when you put it THAT way. Yeah its a bit nutso.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

You may be out of sync, but given the mammoth sums of money involved in domestic transfers, would think you will find it hard to come up with a better option on a limited budget.

Pauliewalnuts, I agree with you in some ways and again am not defending the manager, I actually think Bennett has some talent. Bertrand or the the new lad, I would take the new lad. He seems to have a good attitude but we will have to wait and see. Remember Bertrand, the best left back performance I saw after January was Bennett v Chelsea, he was superb. I want players who want to play for the club

I agree with you re Bertrand. I didn't really see enough to make me want him back, and certainly not enough to merit the sort of fee he'd involve.

Bennett has had decent games, but I don't think there has been anything near enough to suggest he can do that on a regular basis, that's the problem.

[Steve67]

I'd keep Joe Bennett. Better potential than either Enda Stevens or Tony Moon. So, hopefully, after three attempts already, that's the left back sorted. Now, PLEASE sign a central midfielder.

[villan from luton]

I'm not sure who as I'm completely out of sync with who plays for who. But, for me I'm sure for the money that we spent on what admittedly could turn out to be a good player, could have been spent wiser on a tried and tested left-back based in this country. It's less of a gamble and also firms up the defence. we then could focus elsewhere as a priority and not keep coming back here every pre-season looking for another gamble. It's failed twice. Stick here and go and try somewhere else.

You may be out of sync, but given the mammoth sums of money involved in domestic transfers, would think you will find it hard to come up with a better option on a limited budget.

Pauliewalnuts, I agree with you in some ways and again am not defending the manager, I actually think Bennett has some talent. Bertrand or the the new lad, I would take the new lad. He seems to have a good attitude but we will have to wait and see. Remember Bertrand, the best left back performance I saw after January was Bennett v Chelsea, he was superb. I want players who want to play for the club

I agree with you re Bertrand. I didn't really see enough to make me want him back, and certainly not enough to merit the sort of fee he'd involve.

Bennett has had decent games, but I don't think there has been anything near enough to suggest he can do that on a regular basis, that's the problem.

I thought Bennett was superb v Chelsea tbh. He has been poor but so were the likes of John Robson, Gordon Smith (after his motm debut) it does take some time for people to settle. Wilfred Bouma?

[PeterWithesShin]

What I do find interesting is that it's another left back. Randy, with his current parsimonious stance towards the club, is going to have had Lambert come to him, and say "Yeah, I know I bought Joe Bennett, and I know the next year I bought Luna, and then I paid a loan fee to Chelsea to take Bertrand for a year, but now I want to buy another left back on a four year contract. Oh and we have another left back here already. Oh, and I bought Richardson last week and told him - as he told AVTV - he was coming here to play at left back".

Meanwhile, the first one he bought is still at the club and on the books, as is the one he inherited, and the second one he bought is only off on loan for a year, so no fee recouped there.

That's the sort of thing that makes me feel sorry for chairmen.

Again, on the bright side, if we're prepared to do this to sort out a position we've chucked loads of money at already, here's hoping that means we might address some of the positions where we really need people in.

And there is a decent chance that even combined they haven't cost the club as much as Warnock did. Which really makes me feel for chairmen.

[adrenachrome]

Jesus wept.

[adrenachrome]

Fuck a duck.

[PeterWithesShin]

Having thought about it and worked out that Warnock cost us approx £14m in fee and wages, i'll change it to "even combined, they almost certainly haven't cost us as much as Warnock did".

[Matt Collins]

That's the thing. It would be incredible if all the £1- signings we made came off. Who's call it was to go down that route and ditch the bomb squad is unclear

Bent, Ireland, nzogbia, given all started off in the team. KEA and vlaar were hardly young and hungry when signed