Dictatorial Villa?

[andrew08]

The tickets are £35! A coach at the most is £20 per person.

I will leave the game forever if they start this pxxx taking honestly.

Edited the swear... Sorry... I'll resign;-)

[bertlambshank]

villa are now selling coach travel and a ticket to the sell out fixture at Stoke for £99. A seat in the away end. You do get brekkie at VP though.

That's why people are resigning... Ticket touting by any other name. And very wrong... What next away tickets to the highest bidder?

how is the club selling tickets, that it's entitled to sell, anything remotely similar to ticket touting? The price might be a touch high but it's well within the accepted range to go away to a premier league game.  They will have marked those tickets as first refusal for the lions clubs but if they're not taken up (for whatever reason) and there's 9 days until the game it's perfectly reasonable for the club to make them available.

I really don't get what you're criticising the club for here.

This tickets go on sale to executive box holders first,nothing to do with the Lion's club.
To be fair to the club it's not a bad deal.

[PeterWithesShin]

I assume most clubs do a similar type of thing.

[bertlambshank]

I assume most clubs do a similar type of thing.

Yep.

[andrew08]

Let me explain why I'm annoyed.

Last season for the Spurs game away, which you recall was a hot ticket, I gave my sons ticket to another lions club member ( my cousin, chairmen of one of the North American branches). Villa have banned this practice even though in my eyes that was my sons ticket to do with as he wished, no profit was made obviously.

The new Lions Club rules ban this.

But the club are now selling tickets to anyone off the street who can afford it at the expense of loyal fans. It's wrong.

It's not a direct link to the Lions Club of course but they are doing the same thing with spare tickets for profit that the lions clubs have been banned from doing for cost !

[bertlambshank]

I think these are the tickets offered to executive box holders.For away games they get first dibs.
I can't see the problem in itself as they are spending the most money.

[Damo70]

I have just spent a fair amount of time catching up on this thread and three comments stood out. Cheltenham Lion spoke of us crapping on our own carpet and CT said we need SGT to come in and tell people "It is a shambles". Paulie said that we are not getting the big things right so why should we have any optimism about getting the little things right. I am usually a glass half full person but I find it hard to argue with any of those statements.

[andrew08]

I think these are the tickets offered to executive box holders.For away games they get first dibs.
I can't see the problem in itself as they are spending the most money.

Yes of course, but why do they have to pay £99. What if they lived in Stoke ?

[paul_e]

Let me explain why I'm annoyed.

Last season for the Spurs game away, which you recall was a hot ticket, I gave my sons ticket to another lions club member ( my cousin, chairmen of one of the North American branches). Villa have banned this practice even though in my eyes that was my sons ticket to do with as he wished, no profit was made obviously.

The new Lions Club rules ban this.

But the club are now selling tickets to anyone off the street who can afford it at the expense of loyal fans. It's wrong.

It's not a direct link to the Lions Club of course but they are doing the same thing with spare tickets for profit that the lions clubs have been banned from doing for cost !

but they're the clubs tickets to sell, the lions club and it's members, get the tickets as affiliates and the tickets are (I assume given it's been banned) sold as 'no transfers' so the lions club has no right to just sell these on (cost is irrelevant).  This is standard practice, try changing the name on a reservation for a flight or with a hotel for example.  This doesn't apply to the club because they are the seller not an affiliated reseller.

Aside from that you're not even comparing like for like, Villa sold out all allocations other than tickets which were reserved for {a group} (I don't know who) who had first say on them. That first say will have now expired so those tickets become available in the general circulation.  How much the club then charges for the package that ticket is part of isn't anything to do with any other tickets that are sold.

I really don't understand what you're upset about.

[PeterWithesShin]

I think these are the tickets offered to executive box holders.For away games they get first dibs.
I can't see the problem in itself as they are spending the most money.

Yes of course, but why do they have to pay £99. What if they lived in Stoke ?

Then they'd have bought tickets like the rest of us. This is a specific deal, like most clubs do.

[andrew08]

It was a sell out with no more tickets available.


All of a sudden it's not a sellout and they have £99 tickets left. If you think that's fair then fine.

All about opinion...

[andrew08]

I have a ticket by the way. Someone could be sitting next to me who is paying 3 times more!

[andrew08]

So when the Holte End sells out against Man U it would be acceptable if they put on a coach from town, gave a free burger, and charged £99 for Holte End lower tickets that 'suddenly' came available the week before?

[PeterWithesShin]

It's still a sell out apart from a specific hospitality package.

Travel to Villa’s away games in style with our executive away travel packages. Your chance to experience a comfortable trip to stadiums across the country alongside fellow Villa executive supporters.

Enjoy a brunch at Villa Park and then VIP executive coach travel to and from Villa Park to the away teams ground. View the game from the away stand enclosure.

Games available:   

Stoke City v Aston Villa        Saturday 16th August 2014 
Burnley v Aston Villa           Saturday 29th November 2014   
Arsenal v Aston Villa           Saturday 31st January 2015 
Southampton v Aston Villa   Saturday 16th May 2015 

[paul_e]

It was a sell out with no more tickets available.


All of a sudden it's not a sellout and they have £99 tickets left. If you think that's fair then fine.

All about opinion...

Once more, tickets get reserved as available only for {a group}, after a while that reservation expires and the ticket becomes available.  The ticket itself, in it's entire existence as a 'service' was only available as part of a package that the club charge at £99 so when it became available on an open market that's the package which became available.

The holte end analogy is miles away from being remotely relevant, the key bit being that there is no market for the club to sell travel arrangements and food to people coming from the city centre, there is however a market to sell that package to go away to stoke.