FC Groningen vs Aston Villa

[kippaxvilla2]

I cannot see why Paul Lambert would wish to stay at Villa Park. He has failed spectacularly to move Aston Villa forward in a positive way.

But he is not going to resign......why?

There must be a reason. God knows what it is though.

I would imagine its got something to do with the 750k per annum or whatever it is he is still managing to con us out of.

[Jon Crofts]

Bummer I thought this was an evening k.o!

I wish I'd missed it as well.

[Tayls_7]

AVFC match report has rationalised everything. Apparently Groningen have already tuned their killer instinct by playing competitively, plus they are one week ahead of us in their fitness training. Panic over.

[Matt Collins]

A whole week? That's alright then. I presume all the other premier league clubs who won or drew today are a week ahead too

[LTA]

AVFC match report has rationalised everything. Apparently Groningen have already tuned their killer instinct by playing competitively, plus they are one week ahead of us in their fitness training. Panic over.

They're always going to try and rationalize it tbf.  They're not likely to say villa played craps and Lamberts a bellend on the official site.

[kippaxvilla2]

That must be why spuds only put six passed Celtic.  Celtic have been playing European ties for a month otherwise it would've been 12 I'm sure.

[Matt Collins]

I see Lowton and Bennett were playing for the under 21s today - didn't even travel!

Nice 4-1 defeat for them too

[Legion]

AVFC match report has rationalised everything. Apparently Groningen have already tuned their killer instinct by playing competitively, plus they are one week ahead of us in their fitness training. Panic over.

They're always going to try and rationalize it tbf.  They're not likely to say villa played craps and Lamberts a bellend on the official site.

So THAT'S the reason I failed my interview.

[chazvilla]

The thing is, if Vlaar has any sort of brain whatsoever, he will dodge a new contract at all costs. I mean taking off our claret & blue glasses, why would you? We are a massive train wreck, with no sign of getting back on the tracks. I'm sure we will be hearing he wants off soon and just hope we tell him he has to stay. I'd rather have him 1 more year and lose for free, than go into this season without him. Doesn't bare thinking about

[ciggiesnbeer]

I doubt anywhere near 90% of Villa fans want Lambert out, particularly now we know the environment he has been operating under.

Really? I haven't met one since last Christmas that doesn't

He's a trainwreck. How many clubs in turmoil would stick with a manager that's already lost the supporters before going into a new season ?

It'll kick off big style again come the first defeat because the anger/resentment towards him by a large section of our support is already there and wont have disappeared over the summer

I absolutely loathe the bloke as a manager (note as a manager, not as a person as i've never met or wanted to meet him) and that's not changed just because we've had a summer holiday. I don't forget that quick and it's all there, brewed up inside.

Keeping him on has just guaranteed the atmosphere will be highly charged and lit to pop from the off

Different fans. I haven't met one who does. Heck even on message boards I would say the majority are in the "oh god I hope he gets better" category rather than the "get him out now" camp.

I really really hope you are wrong about fans getting on his back and hounding him out though. We have zero investment coming in and so any replacement manager would be on the cheap, the last thing we need is our own fans making things harder. Unless you think that Sid as caretaker would get better results than Lambert.

Anyway, grim times I am sure we can agree.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Another issue is that I don't think Lambert knows his best team, if he does he should start playing it sooner rather than later.

I say this with all due respect to our manager but he does know his arse from his elbow, nevermind his best team.

VCTM summed up the current situation perfectly on page 19.

[David_Nab]

I think the people who want him to get better don't trust Lerner to get anyone better !

[ciggiesnbeer]

I think the people who want him to get better don't trust Lerner to get anyone better !

You got that right. Under different circumstances I would be wanting a change. But with Lerner around, honestly I fear for who/what he would do if Lambert left. It would have to be the most counter intuitive thing possible. Recall Sylla from loan and make him player/manager maybe.

[KevinGage]

I doubt anywhere near 90% of Villa fans want Lambert out, particularly now we know the environment he has been operating under.

Really? I haven't met one since last Christmas that doesn't

He's a trainwreck. How many clubs in turmoil would stick with a manager that's already lost the supporters before going into a new season ?

It'll kick off big style again come the first defeat because the anger/resentment towards him by a large section of our support is already there and wont have disappeared over the summer

I absolutely loathe the bloke as a manager (note as a manager, not as a person as i've never met or wanted to meet him) and that's not changed just because we've had a summer holiday. I don't forget that quick and it's all there, brewed up inside.

Keeping him on has just guaranteed the atmosphere will be highly charged and lit to pop from the off

Different fans. I haven't met one who does. Heck even on message boards I would say the majority are in the "oh god I hope he gets better" category rather than the "get him out now" camp.

I really really hope you are wrong about fans getting on his back and hounding him out though. We have zero investment coming in and so any replacement manager would be on the cheap, the last thing we need is our own fans making things harder. Unless you think that Sid as caretaker would get better results than Lambert.

Anyway, grim times I am sure we can agree.

Most of the match going fans that I have spoken to have wanted him gone since April. 

That's not a pop at anyone who doesn't attend, BTW.   From the outside looking in, and if you only caught the odd inept performance during that period, you could rationalise that it was down to Benteke's injury.

If you've watched game after game of the same shit, with tactics seemingly optional extras and players that look like they've only been introduced in the car park before the game, it gets harder to justify.  And that was going on long before Benteke's injury too. It happened for most of the last campaign and two thirds of the previous one. 

[ciggiesnbeer]

Most of the match going fans that I have spoken to have wanted him gone since April. 

That's not a pop at anyone who doesn't attend, BTW.   From the outside looking in, and if you only caught the odd inept performance during that period, you could rationalise that it was down to Benteke's injury.

If you've watched game after game of the same shit, with tactics seemingly optional extras and players that look like they've only been introduced in the car park before the game, it gets harder to justify.  And that was going on long before Benteke's injury too. It happened for most of the last campaign and two thirds of the previous one.

No offense taken at all. I am in the USA so I do not have to sit through the shite week after week, or at least I can always just stand up and walk out of the room I was last in the UK in June and met up with some Villa supporting friends who do go. They were of the mind we needed Lambert more than he needed us until the takeover was done. The Lerner "I make random decisions" making factor being a big component of that.

Shrug.