Ian Taylor left out of tour...

[silhillvilla]

Isn't Lee Hendrie a nose ?

[Ads]

Probably. Why?

[PeterWithesShin]

For a 'nose', I haven't seen many players who enjoyed scoring for the Villa as much as lil Lee did.

[Dave Cooper please]

Isn't Lee Hendrie a nose ?

If he is he hides it well.

[Dave Cooper please]

Why has Taylor not travelled ?

Because everything at Villa is shit of course.

[silhillvilla]

Why has Taylor not travelled ?

Because everything at Villa is shit of course.

But he's our club ambassador , he should be rising above that.

[olaftab]

Whoosh!

[Sexual Ealing]

Considering Mat "I hate Lambert" Kendrick is going on the tour this week (I assume at the clubs expense as usual) then I think we can infer the story about Tayls is bollocks.

I dunno about that. Kendrick is the Mail's man, not Villa's. It's different.

re Taylor, when he was criticial of the team and manager last season, I was right behind him, glad he'd spoken up and glad he was as pissed off as the rest of us.

However, it can't work both ways, can it? If - if - Lambert has said he doesn't want him on the tour, then that's fair enough, the bloke - whilst working for the club - was pretty critical of him last season.

It's good to hear the likes of Taylor being as angry and disappointed as the rest of us, but really, it can't work both ways. He's either going to speak freely and be as critical publicly as he wants, or he's going to toe the line as a reflection that he's an employee of the club. It can't be both, that's easy to understand.

I like Ian Taylor, he was a decent player, and he was one of us, but I don't think he's a "legend" by any stretch of the imagination, and the whole "you don't treat a legend like that" thing elsewhere is really way, way over the top.

And that's assuming he really was asked to stay at home by Lambert, which is probably not true in the first place.

That is the point, Ian Taylor was not a great player, but he is 110% Aston Villa. Think it is a major error by Lambert, last season was shite and what is Taylor supposed to say

He can say whatever he likes but he can't say it and expect there to be no comebacks.

We didn't bleat when Graham Taylor ripped into the club whilst employed.

Most of us agreed with the 'time warp' comments by John Gregory.

We all knew David James and Gareth Southgate were right.

The club is at the edge and unless people within are at last prepared to speak up then we could find ourselves even more in the dark. We have become a joke in the last 5 years so its time we heard the truth.

This twat yank and his administration are putting our club in a situation matched only by the mid 1960's and I would encourage whistleblowers within every strata of the club to man up, we need people that care to prove it because this is as fucked up as anything under that old bastard ellis.

Fair fucks to Ian Taylor.

House!

[ciggiesnbeer]

House!

Dammit, I was one "how far have we fallen" away

[Dave]

I was still waiting on 'sleepwalking into oblivion'.

[peter w]

I'd be interested who actually got Hendrie involved or did he just write to the club asking to come on the trip for a jolly as he might be short of cash again....

A bit harsh, he has been involved with the Old Stars for quite a while now and the club clearly still mean a lot to him (and with all the demons he's wrestled with in recent years, a role like this probably makes him realise how he frittered away what should have been the peak years of his career).

You see I always have to pull up these types of posts. Exactly how did he fritter his peak years away? He played over 250 (or so) times in one of Europe's top divisions, played for England Under 21s and got one full cap. He left when he was around 30 at a time when Lerner's money was starting to be spent by O'Neill. He left Villa but it was never the same for him but rather than just pack it in he continued (continues? Dave C? Dave W?) to play down the pyramid in lower non-league.

He frittered nothing away footballing wise and has had an excellent career. The type most players would be envious of.

[Dave]

It's probably due to comparison with his peers. While he was playing for the u21s, the midfield was normally Hendrie, Gerrard and Lampard.

In comparison to those two, I think it's fair to say that he didn't necessarily achieve what he might have done.

[Dave Cooper please]

He left Villa but it was never the same for him but rather than just pack it in he continued (continues? Dave C? Dave W?) to play down the pyramid in lower non-league.

Think he might now have retired but he was last seen, at the end of last season, playing for Basford United.

[paul_e]

It's probably due to comparison with his peers. While he was playing for the u21s, the midfield was normally Hendrie, Gerrard and Lampard.

In comparison to those two, I think it's fair to say that he didn't necessarily achieve what he might have done.

I agree, when we saw Hendrie breaking through into the first team in the late 90s I think it would've been fair to assume that his career was going to go differently, his career record should look a lot more like that of Paul Scholes.  I know  a few people who were friends with him in the late 90s-early 00s and they all gave the impression of him being a famous football player for whom the first word was the most important of the 3.  Yes he still had a solid premier league career but he could've had a lot more.

[dave.woodhall]

If he'd been managed by Alex Ferguson he would have won fifty caps and a suitcaseful of medals. Most players would be envious of his career, but every one of them has a fraction of his talent.