Quote from: bob on July 08, 2014, 06:47:53 PMHe's been trying to weedle his way into an FA job for years now. He knew we were working towards being in this shit situation ages ago. A man way out of his depth, without the heart to admit it to an ignorant and permissive boss.Fuck off Faulkner, yer ginger c***.Nobody goes to work to do a bad job and - even if he were out of depth, and I'm not sure whether he was - if he was poor it was because of his boss.
He's been trying to weedle his way into an FA job for years now. He knew we were working towards being in this shit situation ages ago. A man way out of his depth, without the heart to admit it to an ignorant and permissive boss.Fuck off Faulkner, yer ginger c***.
Quote from: Mister E on July 08, 2014, 07:20:13 PMQuote from: bob on July 08, 2014, 06:47:53 PMHe's been trying to weedle his way into an FA job for years now. He knew we were working towards being in this shit situation ages ago. A man way out of his depth, without the heart to admit it to an ignorant and permissive boss.Fuck off Faulkner, yer ginger c***.Nobody goes to work to do a bad job and - even if he were out of depth, and I'm not sure whether he was - if he was poor it was because of his boss.Ah, sorry. I must have misunderstood the final resting position of THE BUCK.
Quote from: RussellC on July 08, 2014, 10:49:43 AMQuote from: Clampy on July 08, 2014, 10:43:36 AMWouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along? Yeah, you're right and I don't disagree that PF would be silly not to look after his own interests. I'm just approaching this as a Supporter, and how I see his legacy. For me, he's overseen some of the strangest decisions in the club's recent history (the change of strategy from Houllier to McLeish still baffles me) and whether or not these decisions were made above his head, he was still in the chair and seen to be supporting them.This is spot on. It's one thing considering the decisions an individual is faced with and agreeing that one might be best for them, but we are Villa fans and we want someone to actually give a shit about Villa. That's what we would do. That's what some clubs have got. And that's what equals success.Look at Faulkner's spell at Villa. He is 100% in the top 10 biggest knobheads ever to have worked for us.
Quote from: Clampy on July 08, 2014, 10:43:36 AMWouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along? Yeah, you're right and I don't disagree that PF would be silly not to look after his own interests. I'm just approaching this as a Supporter, and how I see his legacy. For me, he's overseen some of the strangest decisions in the club's recent history (the change of strategy from Houllier to McLeish still baffles me) and whether or not these decisions were made above his head, he was still in the chair and seen to be supporting them.
Wouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along?
Why didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended? Surely the short-term future of the club would have been uppermost in any discussions. I wonder what has happened to bring about such an about turn? Smoke and mirrors methinks.
The cherry on the icing on the top of the cake.
Nice enough bloke, perhaps a bit out of his depth. Heart in the right place and I wish him well for the future.
Quote from: bob on July 08, 2014, 07:21:23 PMQuote from: RussellC on July 08, 2014, 10:49:43 AMQuote from: Clampy on July 08, 2014, 10:43:36 AMWouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along? Yeah, you're right and I don't disagree that PF would be silly not to look after his own interests. I'm just approaching this as a Supporter, and how I see his legacy. For me, he's overseen some of the strangest decisions in the club's recent history (the change of strategy from Houllier to McLeish still baffles me) and whether or not these decisions were made above his head, he was still in the chair and seen to be supporting them.This is spot on. It's one thing considering the decisions an individual is faced with and agreeing that one might be best for them, but we are Villa fans and we want someone to actually give a shit about Villa. That's what we would do. That's what some clubs have got. And that's what equals success.Look at Faulkner's spell at Villa. He is 100% in the top 10 biggest knobheads ever to have worked for us.Name the other 9, giving reasons for each choice including Paul Faulkner.
Quote from: Legion on July 08, 2014, 07:25:27 PMNice enough bloke, perhaps a bit out of his depth. Heart in the right place and I wish him well for the future.That pretty much sums up my feelings. I think we could all come up with ten names of people who probably banked a lot more money in wages from our club without working as hard or caring as much as he did. Professional criticism of his overall performance is one thing but I don't think he deservers personal stick.
Quote from: RussellC on July 08, 2014, 10:21:01 AMQuote from: levico on July 08, 2014, 10:19:51 AMI maybe wrong but I'm beginning to think that the word omnishambles is becoming appropriate to what's happening within the club.Omnishambles. Is that French for cluster-fuck...?I take it you're not a "The Thick of It" fan?
Quote from: levico on July 08, 2014, 10:19:51 AMI maybe wrong but I'm beginning to think that the word omnishambles is becoming appropriate to what's happening within the club.Omnishambles. Is that French for cluster-fuck...?
I maybe wrong but I'm beginning to think that the word omnishambles is becoming appropriate to what's happening within the club.
Quote from: LeeB on July 08, 2014, 04:53:14 PMIt makes me laugh all the shit that Faulkner takes, it must be a modern thing, because I don't remember people pinning the blame of relegation on Steve Stride's head at all.You have to wonder what the world would have looked like had the internet existed in the mid 80's. Not dismissing the merits of Stride but you'd think he is the answer we are all craving from some people's posts. Like you said he's never given any grief considering we went down.
It makes me laugh all the shit that Faulkner takes, it must be a modern thing, because I don't remember people pinning the blame of relegation on Steve Stride's head at all.
He's been trying to weedle his way into an FA job for years now.
Quote from: dave shelley on July 08, 2014, 10:50:37 AMWhy didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended? Surely the short-term future of the club would have been uppermost in any discussions. I wonder what has happened to bring about such an about turn? Smoke and mirrors methinks.Exactly.This departure is Faulkner's wish. What evidence is there to make us believe that Lerner would, at this time, decide to instigate Faulkner's departure?