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Author Topic: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.  (Read 59037 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2014, 10:39:56 AM »
Hasn't it long been speculated that lambert goes straight to Lerner much of the time and PF is completely in the dark on the sale etc? If so, he is doing the right thing for him and his family in moving on if he has other opportunities.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2014, 10:42:43 AM »
I'd sum up Mr Faulkner's departure as politely as possible

'No Great Loss'

That is not to say things will improve with him leaving - as someone already alluded 'Omnishambles'


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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2014, 10:42:48 AM »
Give the job to Keane.  He doesn't fuck about.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2014, 10:43:07 AM »
Hasn't it long been speculated that lambert goes straight to Lerner much of the time and PF is completely in the dark on the sale etc? If so, he is doing the right thing for him and his family in moving on if he has other opportunities.

I was thinking about that when I saw this bit:

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Having discussed his re-engaging with the Chairman's broader business while remaining involved with Villa in a non-operational role, agreement could not be reached.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2014, 10:43:14 AM »
Would I have wanted him to go now? No, I can't see how that is going to be any good for the club. It just looks like another element of uncertainty added to the pot.

That's an excellent point, and the fact that he is stepping down when the club needs him most makes me think even less favourably of him.

Why? He does have his own career to think about. He's not duty bound to pledge himself to the club. People move on to different things all the time.
He has been looking after his career from day one.When he got the phone call off Randy I bet he couldn't work out if it was a crank call or not.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2014, 10:43:36 AM »
Would I have wanted him to go now? No, I can't see how that is going to be any good for the club. It just looks like another element of uncertainty added to the pot.

That's an excellent point, and the fact that he is stepping down when the club needs him most makes me think even less favourably of him.

Why? He does have his own career to think about. He's not duty bound to pledge himself to the club. People move on to different things all the time.

Of course they do, but as an Aston Villa fan my regard for him is shaped by what he's done for the Football Club. A series of bad decisions, followed by stepping down when the club is in a state of limbo. That, ultimately, was why my opinion of MON soured and why I wont be rushing to wish either of them well in their future pursuits.

Wouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along?

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2014, 10:46:44 AM »
 as I have occasionally stated in the past, my brother-in-law has met PF regularly on a business level.  His opinion  has always been that he's a very good marketing man, but a poor CE. Good luck to him in his next job - I'm sure a bit of networking on the Copacabana has probably thrown up a few leads.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2014, 10:49:43 AM »
Wouldn't you be tempted to move on from your job if your long term future wasn't guaranteed and a chance to further your career came along?

Yeah, you're right and I don't disagree that PF would be silly not to look after his own interests. I'm just approaching this as a Supporter, and how I see his legacy. For me, he's overseen some of the strangest decisions in the club's recent history (the change of strategy from Houllier to McLeish still baffles me) and whether or not these decisions were made above his head, he was still in the chair and seen to be supporting them.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2014, 10:50:37 AM »
Why didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended?  Surely the short-term future of the club would have been uppermost in any discussions.  I wonder what has happened to bring about such an about turn?  Smoke and mirrors methinks.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2014, 10:51:22 AM »
Why didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended? 

Perhaps he did and they're just announcing it now?

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2014, 10:53:36 AM »
Hasn't it long been speculated that lambert goes straight to Lerner much of the time and PF is completely in the dark on the sale etc? If so, he is doing the right thing for him and his family in moving on if he has other opportunities.

Correct.  PF going will have no detriment to the day to day running of the footballing side of the club with Lambert having a direct line to Lerner. 

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2014, 10:54:01 AM »
That's the only thing I can't add up Dave unless he did resign then, but waited until after his charity abseil to announce.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2014, 10:54:45 AM »
Why didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended? 

Perhaps he did and they're just announcing it now?

Possible.

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2014, 10:58:09 AM »
Why didn't he take this step at the New York meeting when the season ended? 

Perhaps he did and they're just announcing it now?

Possible.
Would the time difference between the two be the sort of notice period somebody in that sort of role be expected to give?

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Re: Goodbye Paul Faulkner.
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2014, 10:59:27 AM »
Takes a brave man to resign from his job and be prepared to wait until they've dangled him from the Holte End roof before announcing it.  I bet he checked his equipment a few times more than usual...

 


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