We quite easily played our best football last season against the top sides, which would suggest we're a better outfit than some of the awful defeats to Palace, Fulham, Stoke etc indicated.
I don't think I've ever been as pessimistic at this stage of a seasonI have to say I'm struggling to think of three teams that look definitely weaker than usBurnley, Leicester and then maybe palace?
Quote from: Ads on July 09, 2014, 09:02:42 AMWe quite easily played our best football last season against the top sides, which would suggest we're a better outfit than some of the awful defeats to Palace, Fulham, Stoke etc indicated.Ads- I'm sorry but this is another one-eyed statement. Why would our good performances against the top sides be any more of an indicator than our poor ones against the lower teams? It's shows that we're capable of sporadic decent performances league football is all about sustained and consistent performances against all other teams, not just a couple. You finish where you deserve to in the league and we finished 15th. we're a no-better-outfit than that, I'm afraid.
I have not suggested that we were better than 15th, merely that we should have done a lot better.
Quote from: RussellC on July 10, 2014, 03:03:09 PMQuote from: Ads on July 09, 2014, 09:02:42 AMWe quite easily played our best football last season against the top sides, which would suggest we're a better outfit than some of the awful defeats to Palace, Fulham, Stoke etc indicated.Ads- I'm sorry but this is another one-eyed statement. Why would our good performances against the top sides be any more of an indicator than our poor ones against the lower teams? It's shows that we're capable of sporadic decent performances league football is all about sustained and consistent performances against all other teams, not just a couple. You finish where you deserve to in the league and we finished 15th. we're a no-better-outfit than that, I'm afraid.It's not one eyed in the slightest. We have shown that the team are capable of passing the ball, moving off the ball and being direct against the better midfields and defences of this league. Our inability to get close to replicating that against the poorest sides is fairly inexplicable, but clearly the causal factor in us being in a poor position last year. There are probably a lot of reasons; an inability to rotate the likes of Andi who were rank out of form for a long time, an inability to keep our best players fit, to have the midfield balanced in such a way as to use the space the better sides will vacate by attacking us that is closed off by less adventurous teams etcLast season was not a complete disaster. It was pure mid-table fare until the Chelsea result, where we collapsed spectacularly into a relegation battle. I have not suggested that we were better than 15th, merely that we should have done a lot better.