Philippe Senderos

[kippaxvilla2]

Didier Six?

'The promise of his debut against Manchester United wasn't sustained.'

[AV82EC]

Don't get all the baker abuse ! Is it vogue to slate him ? He ain't perfect but look at the shit in front of him and either side !
He had a decent run of about 8 games last season where he was really good. Cut the guy some slack.

In a word, no. He's not good enough. Constantly poor on the ball, constantly pulled out of position, doesn't know how to use his strength properly and makes a number of mistakes each game.  He doesn't look to me like he is learning from those mistakes either.  5th choice for me on our current squad and could do with a season in the Championship to see if he can develop.

[RussellC]

Baker also seems to be made out of paper mâché . I can't remember a player who goes down injured as often as he does. More often than not he injures himself by going in for challenges with far too much momentum!

Unfortunately, that leaked report from the Palace scouts had Baker in a nutshell, with something along the lines of "strong in the air but regularly caught on his heels on the ground. A weak link."

[Monty]

Baker trying to control the ball is like seeing someone inexperienced with chopsticks flail over a slippery dumpling.

[PeterWithesShin]

Mmmmm dumplings.

[Steve67]

I'm sure confidence played a part in his poor performances last season. Had Lambert brought in a centre back instead of Holt after Christmas, he might have been taken out of the firing line. Baker got worse as the season drew to a close. However, is Senderos a better player than Baker? Not sure.

[UK Redsox]

Senderos is at the World Cup as a member of the eighth ranked team in the world when the seedings were done.

Baker is.......well, let's hope he's having a nice holiday somewhere.

[Steve67]

Ranked 8th? Blimey. Didn't know that. Still, Senderos isn't a regular starter for them. I really wish him well at Villa but can't help thinking he won't add much more than what we already have. I really hope I'm wrong.

[Mister E]

I can't believe we're even having the discussion about Baker. He just isn't good enough right now and needs redemption elsewhere (either on loan or permanently).

[OzVilla]

Whilst I'd agree that it's not Baker's fault that he was thrust into the first team prematurely, it also has to be said that's he's looked as consistently out of his depth as any Villa player I can recall, maybe with the exception of Bernie Gallagher (McGrath rest his soul).

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Mmmmm dumplings.

Larf.

[silhillvilla]

Senderos is at the World Cup as a member of the eighth ranked team in the world when the seedings were done.

& his contribution so far has been to help them along the way to a 1-5 battering .

[dcdavecollett]

5-2.

[MoetVillan]

Senderos is at the World Cup as a member of the eighth ranked team in the world when the seedings were done.

& his contribution so far has been to help them along the way to a 1-5 battering .

5-2.

Is that game still going on?

[PaulWinch again]

I can't believe we're even having the discussion about Baker. He just isn't good enough right now and needs redemption elsewhere (either on loan or permanently).

Exactly, although I'd remove 'right now'. I don't think he'll ever be good enough, that's not a criticism of his character or anything. I hope he succeeds at a lower level, but he's not good enough for the Premier League.