There is a positive with this summer of limbo, come the end of June there will be some v nice seats available on season ticket relocation weekend :-) ....exactly the same as the summer DOL effed off, MON wandered in & Randy arrived
The only meaningful defence of Lambert is that he has been unlucky with injuries.The debit side however is full with, what the Fcuk was going on with his coaching staff supposedly under his nose, if it wasn't under his nose then where the hell was he? Look at the money he has wasted on crap players. Look at the god damn awful tactics. Look at the baffling way the team could go from playing well for a game then playing crap for 6 or 7. Look at the records he has broken. Look at the humiliating defeats he managed with a decent squad at his disposal. He is incredibly lucky to be in a job and being paid a Premier League Managers wages.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on May 25, 2014, 06:45:57 PMThe only meaningful defence of Lambert is that he has been unlucky with injuries.The debit side however is full with, what the Fcuk was going on with his coaching staff supposedly under his nose, if it wasn't under his nose then where the hell was he? Look at the money he has wasted on crap players. Look at the god damn awful tactics. Look at the baffling way the team could go from playing well for a game then playing crap for 6 or 7. Look at the records he has broken. Look at the humiliating defeats he managed with a decent squad at his disposal. He is incredibly lucky to be in a job and being paid a Premier League Managers wages.You don't understand finances + wages. There is plenty to defend Lambert if you choose to look at all the facts, and look at how other teams go from playing well one week to playing badly the next. In fact, imo if you took context of football as a whole, took context of the state we were in when he came, and appreciated he has had to lower the wage bill, hence buying players you dismiss as crap (without appreciating that cheap wages gets you what it gets you) then you'll see that at least from a financial point of view he has done a good job – a good job of running the club in a healthy state, and not say the way Redknapp likes to do business (spend loads on wages and fees, crippling clubs). He's bought enough decent players anyway, or at least got his moneys worth for what he paid for them (KEA/Sylla – as in, yeah they're not that good, but they were cheap and – as our wagebill has been reduced – cheaper than what came before).The football side of things (which is the tip of the iceberg, but certainly not the whole issue) has been pretty uninspiring at times, but there are mitigating circumstances. The financial limitation is one. Injuries another. Trying to rebuild a club under limited funds is another as it will take time. Youngest squad in the premier league (dictated/encouraged by financial constraints). This is not a decent squad – it is an underfunded squad filled with young cheap buys and average academy players. We're doing better with him than we were doing before he came, with a vastly reduced squad. Funnily enough, sometimes he shows good tactical awareness – Liverpool away and so on – the results against Man City/Southampton this year etc, but they're totally dismissed. He fixed our financial problems. If you don't appreciate just that, then I think you're not being honest with yourself. We were in trouble, now we're not. You don't have to agree with me, but to say the only meaningful defence is injuries is a farce that ignores everything bar the most simple black and white view of where we are at the moment. Football bad = Lambert bad. Presumably you're impressed with how O'Leary and Redknapp got success at Leeds and Portsmouth? And yet, where are those clubs now? What happened to them when they were losing the money we were losing? Considering what's happened at Villa for the last four years your view is, imo, short sighted. We've had our moments anyway.
I accept to a degree he has been given a shitty hand.But you can't defend for example amateurish tactics in the 2nd half at Bradford (6 forwards was it).
Quote from: Clampy on May 25, 2014, 11:25:24 AMQuote from: Rolta on May 25, 2014, 11:10:07 AMQuote from: Newby on May 25, 2014, 11:00:54 AMIn hindsight, I wish Randy had kept his trap shut and not said anything. All we have now is doom and gloom with many thinking we have no money to spend and that we are stuck with Paul Lambert as Manager. I think I would prefer to know when the club is sold. Whatever Lambert does spend is wasted because the guy can't coach for shit.But his last two clubs (who weren't losing £50million a year and requiring high levels of investment to be cut) improved season by season under Lambert. He took Norwich from League 1, through the Championship, into the Premier League and got them 12th in consecutive seasons. Was that then a fluke? Or do you not think that maybe there is a bit more to this current state at Aston Villa than saying "he can't coach for shit". (Not that he was the coach anyway his coaches did that, and I think Lambert might actually be the manager). I still think he should have done better than he has. He didn't seem to have the ability to build on good results. We should have kicked on from Chelsea win but instead we went alarmingly backwards, so far backwards even Vlaar admitted that had we had another couple of games to play, we'd have been in trouble. He did an amazing job at Norwich and he had players of lesser quality than he's got here. Benteke's injury was a blow but we were going on losing runs even when he was playing.You say we've got a higher quality of players here than what he had a Norwich, but look at our squad I think you're blinded by the name "Aston Villa". After the cost cutting and financial limitations, do we really, on average, have a better squad than he had at Norwich?
Quote from: Rolta on May 25, 2014, 11:10:07 AMQuote from: Newby on May 25, 2014, 11:00:54 AMIn hindsight, I wish Randy had kept his trap shut and not said anything. All we have now is doom and gloom with many thinking we have no money to spend and that we are stuck with Paul Lambert as Manager. I think I would prefer to know when the club is sold. Whatever Lambert does spend is wasted because the guy can't coach for shit.But his last two clubs (who weren't losing £50million a year and requiring high levels of investment to be cut) improved season by season under Lambert. He took Norwich from League 1, through the Championship, into the Premier League and got them 12th in consecutive seasons. Was that then a fluke? Or do you not think that maybe there is a bit more to this current state at Aston Villa than saying "he can't coach for shit". (Not that he was the coach anyway his coaches did that, and I think Lambert might actually be the manager). I still think he should have done better than he has. He didn't seem to have the ability to build on good results. We should have kicked on from Chelsea win but instead we went alarmingly backwards, so far backwards even Vlaar admitted that had we had another couple of games to play, we'd have been in trouble. He did an amazing job at Norwich and he had players of lesser quality than he's got here. Benteke's injury was a blow but we were going on losing runs even when he was playing.
Quote from: Newby on May 25, 2014, 11:00:54 AMIn hindsight, I wish Randy had kept his trap shut and not said anything. All we have now is doom and gloom with many thinking we have no money to spend and that we are stuck with Paul Lambert as Manager. I think I would prefer to know when the club is sold. Whatever Lambert does spend is wasted because the guy can't coach for shit.But his last two clubs (who weren't losing £50million a year and requiring high levels of investment to be cut) improved season by season under Lambert. He took Norwich from League 1, through the Championship, into the Premier League and got them 12th in consecutive seasons. Was that then a fluke? Or do you not think that maybe there is a bit more to this current state at Aston Villa than saying "he can't coach for shit". (Not that he was the coach anyway his coaches did that, and I think Lambert might actually be the manager).
In hindsight, I wish Randy had kept his trap shut and not said anything. All we have now is doom and gloom with many thinking we have no money to spend and that we are stuck with Paul Lambert as Manager. I think I would prefer to know when the club is sold. Whatever Lambert does spend is wasted because the guy can't coach for shit.
He's broke loads more recordsEg First loss at home to stoke in 50 odd years
No, no Steffo, Lambert is doing a wonderful job. He's a record breaker, signed several fantastic players AND kept us very lucky fans in the premiership. For such a small club, who could only spend a very meagre 43 million pounds in the two years he's been at the club, we should count ourselves very, very fortunate to have such a cracking Manager. NOT.