Quote from: Malandro on May 22, 2014, 09:47:21 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 07:34:27 PManother player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.Nice in theory, in practice Cabaye caused unrest at Newcastle and sulked until he got a moveand Makhoun had about the same number of good games for us as Didier Six.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 07:34:27 PManother player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.Nice in theory, in practice Cabaye caused unrest at Newcastle and sulked until he got a move
another player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.
Quote from: Malandro on May 22, 2014, 09:47:21 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 07:34:27 PManother player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.Nice in theory, in practice Cabaye caused unrest at Newcastle and sulked until he got a moveyou can't apply what happened there to what might have happened anywhere else. There was a lot of unrest at Newcastle so without applying the same rules and circumstances we cannot say for sure he'd have done the same thing. While he played for them he was excellent and that got him noticed and a big move in the end. As much as Newcastle clearly missed him they also ended up with a very tidy profit.
Quote from: rob_bridge on May 22, 2014, 09:59:21 PMQuote from: Malandro on May 22, 2014, 09:47:21 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 07:34:27 PManother player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.Nice in theory, in practice Cabaye caused unrest at Newcastle and sulked until he got a moveand Makhoun had about the same number of good games for us as Didier Six. Houllier became ill, and that changed a lot at the club. He didn't just buy for him for that season. He clearly had plans for him beyond that and the fact that he was going to buy Cabaye might have significantly changed everyone's views on Makoun. What I know is he played well prior to his Villa career, has played well in France since and has been very influential in Cameroon making the World Cup.
Cabeye is an excellent player. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened over the summer under Houllier.
Quote from: Ads on May 22, 2014, 10:19:51 PMCabeye is an excellent player. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened over the summer under Houllier.I think the summer Houllier had planned frankly scared the shit out of our board.
Yes Chris, I agree the "lowest point ever" is often trollied out to refer to a bad result but I did say one of the worst things, not the worst, and I have now the honour of having watched the Villa live for more than half their existence.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 10:01:49 PMQuote from: rob_bridge on May 22, 2014, 09:59:21 PMQuote from: Malandro on May 22, 2014, 09:47:21 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 22, 2014, 07:34:27 PManother player had Houllier stayed would still be at the club. Him alongside Cabaye isn't a bad start at all when attempting to put together a creative, ball retaining midfield unit.Nice in theory, in practice Cabaye caused unrest at Newcastle and sulked until he got a moveand Makhoun had about the same number of good games for us as Didier Six. Houllier became ill, and that changed a lot at the club. He didn't just buy for him for that season. He clearly had plans for him beyond that and the fact that he was going to buy Cabaye might have significantly changed everyone's views on Makoun. What I know is he played well prior to his Villa career, has played well in France since and has been very influential in Cameroon making the World Cup.and his career in France was so good prior to Villa we paid c40% less for him than his previous transfer
Quote from: LeeB on May 22, 2014, 10:23:01 PMQuote from: Ads on May 22, 2014, 10:19:51 PMCabeye is an excellent player. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened over the summer under Houllier.I think the summer Houllier had planned frankly scared the shit out of our board.It must have been a horror show if they thought McLeish was a good appointment.Like Charlie's Angels bloke but from the Infirmary with McAllister as the Angels.
Quote from: Ads on May 22, 2014, 10:19:51 PMCabeye is an excellent player. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened over the summer under Houllier.For all his foot in the mouth tendencies and the cringemaking Liverpool love in, Houllier had the right ideas at the very least.Towards the end of that season, we started playing some really decent football.It was a pivotal moment for the club when - and I honestly still can not believe it - Lerner then appointed McLeish. Absolutely zero continuity there, even if you can get over his piss poor record.
Makoun only played seven games for us.I can't really see any circumstances under which that would be enough of a sample to form a realistic opinion of him.