Albrighton Going to Leicester

[bertlambshank]

Was it Lambert's decision to put them in the bomb squad?

[saunders_heroes]

Nursey's written an article saying how we should be thanking Lambert, not calling for him to go:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-fans-should-thanking-3580253?

Frankly, it's perfectly reasonably written, not some Joe Lovejoyish calumny. However, certain horrible phrases stood out, such as "He feels the pressure is now off as expectations should be lowered." I hated that when reading it.

Christ you can tell they're mates.
It's a horrible situation but let's just hope Lerner sells up soon.

[Stu]

We're in the shit good and proper.

[olaftab]

It appears we are moving from attempted progression to regression rapidly. We are in a difficult position now, in limbo, and with season due to start in about 11 weeks it's difficult to see how we are going to avoid another season of struggle. Even if there is a takeover before the start of the season with money available we will do well to keep out of bottom 3 till January TW.

[mattjpa]

I would say the fact that the fact we have mentioned nothing about it screams out that we are happy to let him go. We look like fucking amateurs at the moment so why keep schtum to save the dignity of a well paid footballer. They could have easily included a line like "Despite our best efforts to keep Marc at the club, in the current situation we could not match the offers he has had from elsewhere so he has decided to seek a fresh challenge elsewhere. He goes with our best wishes"

But no, they release a slow slurry of basically drivel which, again, tells us fuck all about what has actually gone on

So that wouldn't have had anyone saying 'for fucks sake - now we can't even compete with Leicester!' ?

I don't think it's about the dignity of the player. The club statement does wish Marc well, but leaves us to conclude it was the club's decision to let him go, which it kind of was, on the basis that he isn't worth £35k a week to us in the current climate.

I'm not under any illusions it's a worrying mess we're in - I am just so wholly convinced of it that I really cannot spend my whole summer being outraged at every new example of it.

Your original post asked how do we know we didnt offer him 25-28k per week to stay? Im saying if we had, it would have made good PR sense to include that in the statement...for that reason I dont believe we offered him an increased wage deal to stay. With regards to your 'for fucks sake - now we can't even compete with Leicester!' ? comment, i think it is common knowledge that we cant compete with Leicester in the current situation...I would say the bigger issue would be convincing anyone of any real quality to come to us (mascherano is available on a free from Barca and would be ideal but i dont think he would come here in a month of sundays)
There is no outrage here, im as resigned as you are that we are in a bloody mess. All im saying is that in times of this much uncertainty I think the club should be doing more to be honest with the fans regarding the likes of Albrighton and Helenius rather than peddling the corporate wishy-washy BS which only ever actually tells the base facts and not the reasons behind them.

[aev]

That is true ev, but it matters to me.

And me, which is the thing that makes it so fkn annoying, painful, frustrating etc.

I'd love to be able to switch off and spend my time on more worthy causes but it simply isn't that easy.

[Toronto Villa]

If they do play again, it will depend on the attitude that they show in training and on the pitch. You have to think it would be a lot better with a new manager/owner in charge. You have to think Bent/Hutton etc are massively pissed off at how everything has gone down and as much as they might try to play it will affect them.

[Des Little]

That is true ev, but it matters to me.

And me, which is the thing that makes it so fkn annoying, painful, frustrating etc.

I'd love to be able to switch off and spend my time on more worthy causes but it simply isn't that easy.

Same.  It's as much of a time waster as it is annoying, checking for any news every hour or so.  Hurry the fuck up!!!

[JUAN PABLO]

If they do play again, it will depend on the attitude that they show in training and on the pitch. You have to think it would be a lot better with a new manager/owner in charge. You have to think Bent/Hutton etc are massively pissed off at how everything has gone down and as much as they might try to play it will affect them.

same happened to Given too . I think they are professional enough to do what they can for Villa but deep down I would be pissed. 

[Rolta]

If they do play again, it will depend on the attitude that they show in training and on the pitch. You have to think it would be a lot better with a new manager/owner in charge. You have to think Bent/Hutton etc are massively pissed off at how everything has gone down and as much as they might try to play it will affect them.

same happened to Given too . I think they are professional enough to do what they can for Villa but deep down I would be pissed.

Lambert had some kind of bustup with Holt at Norwich. I'm not saying it was on the same scale as with Bent, but I believe Holt was out of the team entirely for a while. He came back in and scored loads of goals. *

Lets get this straight: they're fucking footballers and all they have to do is play football, which as an aside has also made them millionaires – a lot of it coming from our club.

*EDIT: Er, it might have been about a week :/

[JUAN PABLO]

If they do play again, it will depend on the attitude that they show in training and on the pitch. You have to think it would be a lot better with a new manager/owner in charge. You have to think Bent/Hutton etc are massively pissed off at how everything has gone down and as much as they might try to play it will affect them.

same happened to Given too . I think they are professional enough to do what they can for Villa but deep down I would be pissed.

Lambert had some kind of bustup with Holt at Norwich. I'm not saying it was on the same scale as with Bent, but I believe Holt was out of the team entirely for a while. He came back in and scored loads of goals. *

Lets get this straight: they're fucking footballers and all they have to do is play football, which as an aside has also made them millionaires – a lot of it coming from our club.

*EDIT: Er, it might have been about a week :/

true  but Im sure they wanted to play for Villa including Given as back up.  Someone like given would always be good in a dressing room especially when the players seem to have no experience on how to win.

Its just a shambles at the moment .

[ciggiesnbeer]

Nursey's written an article saying how we should be thanking Lambert, not calling for him to go:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-fans-should-thanking-3580253?

Frankly, it's perfectly reasonably written, not some Joe Lovejoyish calumny. However, certain horrible phrases stood out, such as "He feels the pressure is now off as expectations should be lowered." I hated that when reading it.

That and "But at this rate next season is inevitably going to be an even grimmer struggle for survival."

Jesus I feel sick.

[Pete3206]

Grim

[brian green]

All day long I have been fuming about the way the club in general and Lambert in particular have been congratulating themselves on the reduced expectations of the fans as though it is something to be proud of.   They should be deeply ashamed not crowing about it as though it is part of some grand plan.   They are such bunglers and cock up artists that they are peddling this self congratulation for bringing the fan base to a position of resigned defeatism while at the same time playing up the only real asset the club has to appeal to a buyer, namely the dedicated and loyal fans.   With one breath Lambert is saying the pressure is off because the fans really don't care any more and with the next breath he is saying how vital we are to the future of the club.   And just how small time is it to say you hope the fans will still keep buying the club merchandise.   Pathetic.

[LeeB]

All day long I have been fuming about the way the club in general and Lambert in particular have been congratulating themselves on the reduced expectations of the fans as though it is something to be proud of.   They should be deeply ashamed not crowing about it as though it is part of some grand plan.   They are such bunglers and cock up artists that they are peddling this self congratulation for bringing the fan base to a position of resigned defeatism while at the same time playing up the only real asset the club has to appeal to a buyer, namely the dedicated and loyal fans.   With one breath Lambert is saying the pressure is off because the fans really don't care any more and with the next breath he is saying how vital we are to the future of the club.   And just how small time is it to say you hope the fans will still keep buying the club merchandise.   Pathetic.

I think you're a bit harsh sticking it on Lambert though Brian. It not him setting the budgets, but he's the twat that's got to stand out there all tell everyone what they don't want to hear.