So who do you want as the next Villa manager?

[Toronto Villa]

Has Christophe Gaultier been discussed?

Yep, linked last week to us and the barcodes.

Well Villa are "in the driving seat" now apparently:

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/05/16/ag-why-aston-villa-fans-should-be-hoping-lille-finish-third-on-s/?

Ah, yes the good old "driving seat". Which would indicate we have some control on the situation, and given that we chairman looking to sell and a manager still in a job seems a bit advanced. I do love press speak. Favourite one is always how teams "brace themselves" for a bid during the transfer window.

[mr underhill]

I want Admin as manager with London Boy as his assistant. They know everything and one of them thinks he's God which is good enough for me.

[silhillvilla]

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

[Monty]

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

His football's boring. There are other managers who'd do just as well as him but less boringly, and with less of a feeling about them that they're from football's past.

Having seen what this particular 'school' of management produces for the last three years, I'm absolutely amazed that people still think Moyes would be the answer. If you're entering a Formula One race on a brown horse, you don't swap it for a black horse just because that was the one which won the horse-races. This club is miles behind many, many others and we need to catch up.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

I really don't get the appeal of Moyes, his football is like watching paint dry. Although the last few years down B6 have been pretty dire if we're talking about a take over and progressing to where we want to be then we should be looking for better than Moyes.

[pauliewalnuts]

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

What reputation are we getting?

[hilts_coolerking]

His football's boring. There are other managers who'd do just as well as him but less boringly, and with less of a feeling about them that they're from football's past.

I agree with most of that but not the bit in bold.  I'm not sure how you can predict that without knowing a) how Moyes would do, or b) how these unnamed others would do.

[silhillvilla]

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

What reputation are we getting?

Well according to the media we didn't want Shteeve, then GED, then Eck and now Lambo.
Oh and we hounded DOL out too !

[PaulWinch again]

I think the point is people would like to see something a bit different if we're going to be under new ownership. Moyes is a good manager, but he has an upper limit similar to O'Neill and maybe Lambert with more money. It would be nice to have a manager who could get us playing exciting football and with money could get us pushing higher up the league. That obviously completely depends on what type of owners we end up getting.

[Monty]

His football's boring. There are other managers who'd do just as well as him but less boringly, and with less of a feeling about them that they're from football's past.

I agree with most of that but not the bit in bold.  I'm not sure how you can predict that without knowing a) how Moyes would do, or b) how these unnamed others would do.

Ok, there are other managers about whom it is perfectly conceivable to project that they could do as well as Moyes. Without wanting to labour the point.

Are people really turning noses up at Moyes !?
Blimey , no wonder we are getting a reputation. If the press get hold of this they'll have a field day.

What reputation are we getting?

Well according to the media we didn't want Shteeve, then GED, then Eck and now Lambo.
Oh and we hounded DOL out too !

Indeed, poor DOL. All he ever did was waste money, play crap football and directly insult the fans as a whole. And we forced Houllier to have a heart-attack, and always hated Eck because he was a Bluenose, as we continue to hate Ron Saunders. I tell you, that Joe Lovejoy article is one of the crappest things I've ever seen.

[hilts_coolerking]

Ok, there are other managers about whom it is perfectly conceivable to project that they could do as well as Moyes. Without wanting to labour the point.

Such as...

[Monty]

Ok, there are other managers about whom it is perfectly conceivable to project that they could do as well as Moyes. Without wanting to labour the point.

Such as...

Murat Yakin, Christophe Gaultier, Rene Girard, Vicenzo Montella, Frank de Boer, Gus Poyet, and others. They might all be disasters, but so might Moyes be - I think the exposure of his way of playing has been extremely damaging to him. We saw United have very similar problems to the ones we usually have - crap at home, unable to break teams down, no movement, reliance on high balls - only they have much better players so finished much higher up the table.

Also, a list such as that one is entirely dependent on our being taken over, as it wouldn't really matter who's in charge if the same regime and policy continues. In fact, were that the case, I can't see Moyes taking the job either.

[hilts_coolerking]

Murat Yakin, Christophe Gaultier, Rene Girard, Vicenzo Montella, Frank de Boer, Gus Poyet, and others. They might all be disasters, but so might Moyes be - I think the exposure of his way of playing has been extremely damaging to him. We saw United have very similar problems to the ones we usually have - crap at home, unable to break teams down, no movement, reliance on high balls - only they have much better players so finished much higher up the table.

Also, a list such as that one is entirely dependent on our being taken over, as it wouldn't really matter who's in charge if the same regime and policy continues. In fact, were that the case, I can't see Moyes taking the job either.

Ta for that.  I'm not against a European manager coming in, in fact I'm all for it.  But I don't think Moyes would be a disaster.  Okay his brand of football might not be to your taste, or even mine, but the very least you can say is that you know what you'll be getting: a solid, experienced, effective manager.  Some might point to the fact that he hasn't won anything but let's face it we're unlikely to be winning anything in the near future anyway.  I think there's something to be said for a period of quiet improvement before we take the plunge on a European manager with no experience of the Premier League and a style of play that our squad will think has come from Mars.

However, like I said before, if the takeover happens and is of the megabucks variety all that can be brought forward as we'll be able to afford players who are already comfortable with a more progressive style.  Most of our current squad seem unable to cope with even Lambert's rudimentary stuff.

[Monty]

I don't think he'd be a disaster either. I just think he'd be more of the same, and if the Big Investors are coming in I'd rather have a manager with a bit of vision. We found out last time the dangers of blowing all hopes on the wrong guy. Should the status quo remain in place come the end of this summer then Moyes would be as good as anyone for the job at hand - but like I say, I don't think he'd take that job, as it would be a further endangering of his already diminished reputation.

[mr underhill]

I wouldn't be averse to Moyes under any circumstances (i.e. new owners or not) as I genuinely believe he'd make us better, regardless of ownership. But that doesn't matter as I don't think he'd ever come here now; even when we were top six he didn't want the gig post MON. But I wonder where he will end up? I don't think he's a fit o Spurs and he's too good for West Ham and the Albion. I can almost see him doing a McClaren and repairing his reputation in one of the European Leagues before risking it here again.