The Run in

[cheltenhamlion]

Remy is back for the weekend and Cardiff will be missing the defender suspended after getting sent off on Sunday.

[peter w]

Whenever I've looked at the permutations I can still see Fulham getting something from Stoke and maybe even Cardiff. Sunderland will lose this weekend but I fancy them to get points, possibly 4 over their last two games and out goal difference will take a battering at Man city and Tottenham. That puts us really up against it. The 'funny' thing is throughout all my points possibilities I haven't for a single soupcon of a second thought we will help ourselves out by not getting beaten on Saturday.

[tomd2103]

Whenever I've looked at the permutations I can still see Fulham getting something from Stoke and maybe even Cardiff. Sunderland will lose this weekend but I fancy them to get points, possibly 4 over their last two games and out goal difference will take a battering at Man city and Tottenham. That puts us really up against it. The 'funny' thing is throughout all my points possibilities I haven't for a single soupcon of a second thought we will help ourselves out by not getting beaten on Saturday.

We're fortunate that they both need two wins to go above us, as it would be an awful lot more uncomfortable if they could afford to draw at least one game. 

[Dlp]

Even if we do stay up this season, which I think we probably will, if there us no change at the club, on and off the pitch, we will get relegated next season.

[David_Nab]

I think Fulham being us and Norwich has given them an aura of world beaters now..they are still very much shite as seen by drawing against Hull (who have an awful away record ) after being 2 nil up.

Stoke away will be tough.

[Gregorys Boy]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Anyway, I don't know if one point will be enough, or at least we shouldn't assume it will be, just get the three at the weekend and there will be no doubt.  Win at Hull, lose to City and maybe nick a draw at Spurs if we are lucky ending a horrible season on at least something of a high.

By the way all this about managers doing others favours is complete tosh, maybe it happens once in awhile, but very rarely given the stakes.

And you end up where you deserve to.  I would say 4th or 5th from bottom has been about our level this season.  We are not as bad as Cardiff, Norwich or Fulham, and maybe Sunderland, but after that its a struggle to find anyone worse than us.  In terms of players I would say Palace, but the fact is their committed has been far greater than ours and the manager has worked wonders.

What I do go along with is that if something doesn't change next then it maybe our turn for the drop.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Well, strictly speaking, in our case it is called "the tactic" because we don't have any others.

[Monty]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Well, strictly speaking, in our case it is called "the tactic" because we don't have any others.

Sing it sister.

Also, you can have perfectly decent tactics but also get fucking lucky. That was us against Southampton - three shots on target and three goals, including Delph's from 30 yards? That is luck.

[Gregorys Boy]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Well, strictly speaking, in our case it is called "the tactic" because we don't have any others.

Sing it sister.

Also, you can have perfectly decent tactics but also get fucking lucky. That was us against Southampton - three shots on target and three goals, including Delph's from 30 yards? That is luck.

Yeah because Delph's shot was just so lucky to fly into the net like that...

There is more to the game than keeping the ball and shooting.  Southampton are a much better footballing side than us it would have been dumb to have attempted to out do them at their game.  We worked hard, defended decent (including the keeper) and took are chances well we got them.

[dekko]

Plus if Vlaar hadn't gone off injured we would've won that one 3-0

[Monty]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Well, strictly speaking, in our case it is called "the tactic" because we don't have any others.

Sing it sister.

Also, you can have perfectly decent tactics but also get fucking lucky. That was us against Southampton - three shots on target and three goals, including Delph's from 30 yards? That is luck.

Yeah because Delph's shot was just so lucky to fly into the net like that...

There is more to the game than keeping the ball and shooting.  Southampton are a much better footballing side than us it would have been dumb to have attempted to out do them at their game.  We worked hard, defended decent (including the keeper) and took are chances well we got them.

It was a lucky. He doesn't put that in the top corner even half the time he tries it, therefore it was a bit lucky. I'm not saying we should have tried playing them at their own game - you'll notice, in fact, that I say we probably had the right tactics. But even with these tactics we were outplayed, Vlaar or no Vlaar, and we were maddeningly lucky in that game - to argue otherwise is rather perverse.

[Gregorys Boy]

It's those big games we've won that have just about kept us up this season. Fortune smiled on us in a few of those games for sure, particularly Man City where we had 3 shots on target and 30% possession but somehow won the game 3-2.

Bit like the great Southampton heist where we had 20 something possession and three shots on goal .

Rubbish that was a great counter attacking performance just like Arsenal on the opening day.  Its called tactics.

Well, strictly speaking, in our case it is called "the tactic" because we don't have any others.

Sing it sister.

Also, you can have perfectly decent tactics but also get fucking lucky. That was us against Southampton - three shots on target and three goals, including Delph's from 30 yards? That is luck.

Yeah because Delph's shot was just so lucky to fly into the net like that...

There is more to the game than keeping the ball and shooting.  Southampton are a much better footballing side than us it would have been dumb to have attempted to out do them at their game.  We worked hard, defended decent (including the keeper) and took are chances well we got them.

It was a lucky. He doesn't put that in the top corner even half the time he tries it, therefore it was a bit lucky. I'm not saying we should have tried playing them at their own game - you'll notice, in fact, that I say we probably had the right tactics. But even with these tactics we were outplayed, Vlaar or no Vlaar, and we were maddeningly lucky in that game - to argue otherwise is rather perverse.

The rest we will just have to differ on, but you trying to convince me than Delph's shot was lucky has to be a late April Fool's joke right?  So according to your logic it was a lucky shot because he normally misses, and John Jenson had never scored for Arsenal in god knows how many years playing for them, but his goal against QPR was still a cracker.  Bet you guys never thought you would see a Jenson reference in this thread!

[Monty]

The Jenson reference, I admit, is a surprise, and it's a valid point. But it's lucky for us, as a team, to rely on such a brilliant goal. We didn't deserve that win overall, but a great goal scraped us through.

[supertom]

We've had one convincing/easy win all season, against Norwich. The rest have been a slog and often with a great deal of fortune for us. 

It'd be nice to be able to just belt a few teams next season or have a few more strolls in the park. Lord knows we've let plenty of teams have an easy day against us.

[tomd2103]

We've had one convincing/easy win all season, against Norwich. The rest have been a slog and often with a great deal of fortune for us. 

It'd be nice to be able to just belt a few teams next season or have a few more strolls in the park. Lord knows we've let plenty of teams have an easy day against us.

We were only really convincing for 20 minutes in that game though.