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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #135 on: April 12, 2014, 07:10:40 PM »
I don't actually blame Lambert. He's a small time Yes Man offered his shot at a big club, and would be insane to turn it down. It's Lerners fault. He drove our last great manager out of the club and replaced him with a succession of mediocrities and no-marks. If you want Villa to be anything like what we were, then it is Lerner who should be bundled out of the door

The problem is you can not bundle owners out of the door.

The first prerequisite for Lerner going is that someone has to be prepared to pay the going rate for the club. You can't change owners like managers, so we are stuck with him.

I don't agree with your suggestion that MON was a great manager for a nanosecond, but I do agree that Lerner's policy is the fundamental problem. This young and hungry thing is really bullshit, it's basically a "plan" they've hatched which conveniently tallies with being cheap. Pay low fees and wages for lower league players and you get a squad full of lower league players.

This is the worst Villa team and squad I can remember in decades and it is fundamentally traceable to the conceit that we can compete without buying good players - proven wrong every single season by other teams - and that if you just wait long enough, young players mature into really good ones.

They made that jump from big money players to cheap guff in one go. They're lucky we didn't go down last year or the year before. They'll probably be lucky again this season, but if this continues another year, we're going to go.

Bloody hell I've been saying this for the last 4 years!

So give yourself yet another gold star.

You're far from the only person who has pointed out that we've assembled a squad full of mediocre guff.

The amount of discussions and arguments I've had with you over the same period and you've just gone and said the exact same thing I've been saying until I was blue in the face.
And by the way I don't want a bloody gold star or any kind of god damn reward, I just want a decent bloody Villa team. Stop taking things personally.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #136 on: April 12, 2014, 07:12:20 PM »
Utter shite and I couldn't give a rats whether Lambert is there tomorrow or not.  His comments are of a man that doesn't ave a clue and is devoid of answers or confidence.

His squad is dreadful.

Up to recently i was against sacking him as we needed some stability at the club. Stability like this we don't need.

Can't see us getting a point this season so we are a toss up for relegation and as a club we'd deserve it quite frankly.



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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #137 on: April 12, 2014, 07:14:23 PM »
The stark fact is that at the minute the club is run by an accountant - Robin Russell. He is Lerner`s right hand man not the "call centre manager".
Its all about balancing the books presumably for Lerner to sell up - this could all potentially backfire if we drop this season.
Like a previous poster I concur that it is one of the worst squads for decades - even in the late 1960`s and early 1970`s the club was on its knees but we all had hope - only the Villa could get a Billionaire owner and screw it up big style.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #138 on: April 12, 2014, 07:14:28 PM »
I don't actually blame Lambert. He's a small time Yes Man offered his shot at a big club, and would be insane to turn it down. It's Lerners fault. He drove our last great manager out of the club and replaced him with a succession of mediocrities and no-marks. If you want Villa to be anything like what we were, then it is Lerner who should be bundled out of the door
Great manager? Are you MON ?

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #139 on: April 12, 2014, 07:15:35 PM »
I don't actually blame Lambert. He's a small time Yes Man offered his shot at a big club, and would be insane to turn it down. It's Lerners fault. He drove our last great manager out of the club and replaced him with a succession of mediocrities and no-marks. If you want Villa to be anything like what we were, then it is Lerner who should be bundled out of the door
Great manager? Are you MON ?
In comparison to Lambert, he's great, exceptional, and I suppose I should also add...terrific.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #140 on: April 12, 2014, 07:17:28 PM »


They should have used the round badge if they were trying to make a point by not using the new one.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #141 on: April 12, 2014, 07:17:33 PM »
I don't actually blame Lambert. He's a small time Yes Man offered his shot at a big club, and would be insane to turn it down. It's Lerners fault. He drove our last great manager out of the club and replaced him with a succession of mediocrities and no-marks. If you want Villa to be anything like what we were, then it is Lerner who should be bundled out of the door
Great manager? Are you MON ?

I am worried about the Mon factor though because every team he leaves feckin nosedives down.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #142 on: April 12, 2014, 07:18:15 PM »


They should have used the round badge if they were trying to make a point by not using the new one.

Exactly what I said about it.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #143 on: April 12, 2014, 07:19:02 PM »
Plus the fact I suspect he has lost the dressing room.

To be fair Selhurst Park can be confusing to find your way around.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #144 on: April 12, 2014, 07:19:18 PM »


They should have used the round badge if they were trying to make a point by not using the new one.

The ambition of the Ellis era....

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #145 on: April 12, 2014, 07:20:28 PM »


They should have used the round badge if they were trying to make a point by not using the new one.

The ambition of the Ellis era....

Wouldn't mind a bit of that now.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #146 on: April 12, 2014, 07:20:32 PM »
Good news! I have fond cheap beer the services!

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #147 on: April 12, 2014, 07:23:19 PM »
Plus the fact I suspect he has lost the dressing room.

To be fair Selhurst Park can be confusing to find your way around.

So a dressing room full of shit players don't trust a shit manager.

How the fuck have we got ourselves into this mess.

Thank you Mr Lerner.

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #148 on: April 12, 2014, 07:23:59 PM »
Ground hog day. Shit performance number 25 of the season for us.

How many people predicted 1-0 Palace? A fair few i'd guess because forget this inconsistent malarkey, we aren't, we are consistently shit.

Lambert out. Again. He should have gone last January.

25th January 2013 - Millwall 2 Aston Villa 1... that was when he should have gone!

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Re: Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #149 on: April 12, 2014, 07:24:56 PM »
The amount of discussions and arguments I've had with you over the same period and you've just gone and said the exact same thing I've been saying until I was blue in the face.
And by the way I don't want a bloody gold star or any kind of god damn reward, I just want a decent bloody Villa team. Stop taking things personally.

I'm not taking anything personally, I am beyond caring these days, but trust me, I've been pointing out that if you buy piss poor Championship players, that's where you end up, for almost two years, and quite possibly longer than that.

The difference between you and me is that I was prepared to give Lambert more time this year, as I thought he deserved it - just about - on the basis of last season. I still think he deserved it at Christmas this season.

The problem I have with him is, in as much as I can think of reasons he should be sacked, more than that, it's that I can't think of one single convincing reason why he should keep his job.

 


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