The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[Toronto Villa]

If you have never had media training it can be a very nervous experience. I do a lot of presentations in my job and it's easy now after this many years. Then last year I did my first proper media speech and it's completely different. Some people are just not comfortable in those environments and also when speaking outside of their primary language. We shouldn't be judging him on his mannerisms.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

I don't think it matters that much in the slightest really.

so within 24 hours of the takeover being announced the club is lying about the business achievements of the potential new owner and that isnt concerning?

the 5 listed companies is another lie but dont worry it was probably lost in translation or something

two whopping lies within two days so what else has been lied about?

what next? the 35000 employed is really 3500 and was a typo

It only matters if you're looking for things to be continually angry about. Let's just see what happens eh?

not angry just amazed that people write off major bollock ups as just one of those things and of no concern

if you go for a job and say i worked on the major restructure of x company and i own 5 companies and i dont really what you still be happy to employ that person?

the lies have come from somewhere and begs the question about more lies and the persons integrity

[andyh]

We'll soon be reaching the point, if we haven't already where he is having the fuck ripped out of him whatever he says or does.

He could wear better glasses....the old lady battering, massive lie telling tosser!

[aj2k77]

http://www.bridge8.com/website/htmlcn/tenants_0092.htm appear to be the owners of the building in which xwho, one of the companies RECON own, rent office space as their beijing HQ.

[aj2k77]

XWHO is a worldwide planning and design organization focusing on urban planning and design, landscape architecture, architecture and land development consulting service, active on the global front since the 1960’s. As a wholly owned subsidiary of RECON group, it has remained committed to make its contribution to the sustainable development world-widely based on international practices and its own research and expertise of the local culture.

Aiming to optimize the rapid urban development process in China, XWHO has been actively practiced all over the country for the past decade. We have participated many socially influential projects such as the environmental planning for the West Lake applied for World Heritage List, Beijing 2008 Olympics, and several pavilions design of Shanghai EXPO2010. XWHOers with their unique cross-culture-disciplinary and teamwork spirit have created many award-winning projects attracted attention and praise world-widely.

XWHO is one of the first two entrepreneurs qualified the professional certification and license of urban planning and design issued by MOHURD. XWHO is also qualified to be issued the professional certificate to allow the professional service of the tourism planning and design, with a certification issued by the bureau of Tourism.

Apparently did work on the Beijing Olympics, no mention of the Birds nest.

[aj2k77]

The doctor sounded quite plausible in that video.

Conmen usually do

I beg your pardon , I thought he looked nervous , uneasy and making things up as he went along

Why was he doing an interview in the middle of the street?

Because he's that skint he has no offices or home, obviously.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

https://twitter.com/mattlyynch/status/734025783962828800

An interview with Dr. tone.
Seems he knows who the manager is. Just another week to wait.

we become a championship club officially on i think the 2nd june and then they will look at the deal to see if it can go through

so it wont be a week

[JUAN PABLO]

http://www.bridge8.com/website/htmlcn/tenants_0092.htm appear to be the owners of the building in which xwho, one of the companies RECON own, rent office space as their beijing HQ.

imagine Villa park looking like that building in ten years , well the surrounding area at least .

[four fornicholl]

http://www.bridge8.com/website/htmlcn/tenants_0092.htm appear to be the owners of the building in which xwho, one of the companies RECON own, rent office space as their beijing HQ.

imagine Villa park looking like that building in ten years , well the surrounding area at least .

Looks very much like computer generated graphics to me, more smokescreens I fear.

[Clark W Griswold]

If you have never had media training it can be a very nervous experience. I do a lot of presentations in my job and it's easy now after this many years. Then last year I did my first proper media speech and it's completely different. Some people are just not comfortable in those environments and also when speaking outside of their primary language. We shouldn't be judging him on his mannerisms.

Completely agree with that, but it's not that which worries me, it's the stuff that's not adding up and apparently not the truth.

[aj2k77]

http://www.bridge8.com/website/htmlcn/tenants_0092.htm appear to be the owners of the building in which xwho, one of the companies RECON own, rent office space as their beijing HQ.

imagine Villa park looking like that building in ten years , well the surrounding area at least .

Looks very much like computer generated graphics to me, more smokescreens I fear.

Don't they design buildings and urban areas? How do you think they design them? With Lego?

[Ian.]

The doctor sounded quite plausible in that video.

Conmen usually do

I beg your pardon , I thought he looked nervous , uneasy and making things up as he went along

Why was he doing an interview in the middle of the street?

He's here, he's there, he's every f**kin where, he's Dr Tone

[godzvilla]

This ´reasoning´ taken ( stolen ?) from Vital Football, has calmed my Recon fears , somewhat .  ...........Godzvilla!

Looks a good calming voice amongst some of the hysteria about the takeover taken from the Villa New Owner Thread:

McParlandTheGreat posted: 21/5/2016 14:03

Let's look at the facts. The Villa website put out a statement that Recon was a holdings company which has a controlling interest in 5 companies, interests in many more, which in total employ 35000 personnel in 75 countries. It appears that the controlling interest in 5 companies bit was wrong. A guess might be that the mistake was at the Villa end; the Chinese end was quick to correct it. It now appears that the controlling interest is in 1 company (it is of course possible and even likely that it has major interests in the other 4; the statement from the Chinese end that it is engaged in acquiring a controlling interest in another 4 companies tends to imply this)

There is a corrected statement on the Villa web site which reads:
Recon Group is a multinational conglomerate group led by Dr. Tony Jiantong Xia. The group holding company owns, directly and indirectly, the shares of several publicly listed companies on the Hong Kong and Chinese stock exchanges and many other private companies employing 35,000 people in 75 countries.

The mistake is a minor one. It doesn't matter a jot whether Recon owns majority interests in 0 or 100 companies. It is a holdings company; it is a vehicle for investments. What matters is whether or not it can put together the resources to buy Villa. It appears to have satisfied Hollis that it can. It now has to satisfy the leagues. If it can then Recon owns Villa. I have no problem with that.

The thing about holdings companies is that they tend not to just stick money in any old company. They have a strategy. They target certain markets for growth. They build up related investments. They invest over a period, not for the short term. At least the better ones do; from what I've read of Recon this is what Recon does. They're based in a country with huge opportunities in the medium and long term, and Recon is wired into that. If you look at what's been said about the plans for Villa, that approach ties in. I've seen it suggested that it if we aren't promoted at the end of this coming season Recon will pull out. I don't think Recon is that sort of company. It's about long term investment and profit, not about short term return. It has highly ambitious plans for Villa and the structure around it; in the scheme of things, a one season promotion is highly desirable, but nowhere near critical.

Early days. A lot more will become clear over the next two weeks and beyond. I hope we back it not knock it. Teams which aren't optimistic get nowhere on the field. Clubs and fans also need optimism.

Read more: http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7520870#ixzz49JFA03hy

[jwarry]

If you can stomach it VT is worth a read right now as a Chinese chap has tried to explain why you we can expect a paucity of info.  He makes some interesting points

[Clampy]

I don't think it matters that much in the slightest really.

so within 24 hours of the takeover being announced the club is lying about the business achievements of the potential new owner and that isnt concerning?

the 5 listed companies is another lie but dont worry it was probably lost in translation or something

two whopping lies within two days so what else has been lied about?

what next? the 35000 employed is really 3500 and was a typo

It only matters if you're looking for things to be continually angry about. Let's just see what happens eh?

not angry just amazed that people write off major bollock ups as just one of those things and of no concern

if you go for a job and say i worked on the major restructure of x company and i own 5 companies and i dont really what you still be happy to employ that person?

the lies have come from somewhere and begs the question about more lies and the persons integrity

It's not a case of writing it off, maybe some people are not getting their knickers in an almighty twist at this early stage. Some people might want to wait and see what develops. Just because you're stamping your feet, we don't all have to.