The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[saunders_heroes]

So Xia was responsible for the Birds Nest stadium in Beijing?

[Toronto Villa]

God Gregg Evans is such a fucking wanker. If Carson Yeung was English would he even have referenced the other owner at Birmingham? Like somehow they are all the same.

[paul_e]

We had a chairman. We complained that he was a small businessman and we needed a rich owner. We got a new owner. We complained that he'd inherited his money and we needed a self-made rich owner. We've got a self-made rich owner. We're complaining that he looks a bit dodgy/shifty.

This would be a quiet place if all shrugged and said, 'you know what, let's wait and see and reconvene in August'.

I don't think anyone is asking for that, it's just that comments like shyster when he's been known about for less than a day are a bit much.

I don't think the site in general has made those sort of comments about him

Shyster, Fraud and wrong un were all said by me, no one else
don't try and make my comments speak for the site, you've mentioned it numerous times on different threads but your problem is with me not the forum, in general I think he has been welcomed warmly for someone we never heard of until yesterday

So you can keep banging on about the comments to your hearts content but it's only me that's made them no one else as far as I can see

I've used your term because it is, frankly, the most ridiculous reaction I've seen anywhere about this and I'm including from bitters and noses.  That doesn't mean there aren't other people of a similar mind which is why I said 'comments like'.  Others include 2 or 3 people who have said they hope he fails the fit and proper person test (or whatever it's replacement is called).  Those kind of comments aren't a display of healthy skepticism, they're just some bizarre form of self-harm where people just refuse to accept any possibility that something good could actually happen to the club, I just don't understand how anyone can be so determined to not be happy that they'd reject the possibility so harshly, I honestly worry for you and them.

[paul_e]

God Gregg Evans is such a fucking wanker. If Carson Yeung was English would he even have referenced the other owner at Birmingham? Like somehow they are all the same.

See I normally think he's a right tit but in this case he's clearly read some of the comments on facebook/twitter/forums and found a few people making that comparison.  Reporting it in the way he has is his normally sneery bullshit but the link was made by some Villa fans and he has just picked up on it.

[Monty]

So Xia was responsible for the Birds Nest stadium in Beijing?

So says Hollis. Makes sense too, because it's not just a stadium but a very large development site with all sorts going on. Pretty impressive.

[ozzjim]

I cannot find his name linked to it in any way shape or form online.

[DeKuip]

I cannot find his name linked to it in any way shape or form online.

Our self-proclaimed superhero just flew past and waved his magic spell at it on the way home from building 60 cities and rehousing 500 million people.

[aj2k77]

'We did not target only on Villa'

'we signed the deal a long time ago, when I was there watching a game of villa. it was some approval process (this is vague in Chinese but I try to be accurate) involved so we waited till yesterday to announce this'

'we paid 75mil pounds as the first installment. Once the club back to PL, another 40M will be paid. for sure there will other things involved'

'we will decide on the managerial choice in 2 weeks. they have their opinion on manager and players (which mean who to buy)'

'we have 6 managers to choose from, including Di Mateo and Perrson. We know reduce the number to three. the manager has to have experience with Championship, but will need to have european leagues ambition and experience'

'we have clauses in the contract with manager. anytime the club is not within the first 6 positions of the league, we can sack him'

'we will recommend a few talents chinese youth players to the club, but the coach has final decision. We will not just send them to the club '

'my plan is to take Villa back to PL as soon as possible', he then pointed the shirt that the journalist wears (Arsenal), 'like this club, I want to see my club to stay in Champions league every season'.

'in 8-10 years i want Villa back to its best time - to become one of the best clubs in europe'

'I beleive in Villa- they have the best fan base - if we exploit it well - it will form the base of the best club of the world (he didnt use 'one of the best' in this sentence)'

[ciggiesnbeer]

"'we have clauses in the contract with manager. anytime the club is not within the first 6 positions of the league, we can sack him'"

Bloody hell I hope this is true. Nice clause.

[Sexual Ealing]

Does TBAR have to fold now? Do they all emerge, blinking into the sunrise, having handed back their service revolvers, unsure of what comes next but shaking one another's' hands with the certainty that they have lived through the forging of a new future but that they'll never see each other again?

That must be how this story ends, or else what? They keep going, typing bouncing-tit emoticons at the moon until Dr Tony starts to fail and they can get the operation up and running again?

So in Erdington or Brisbane when the sun goes down and I sit on the old broken-down river pier watching the long, long skies over Walsall and sense all that raw land that rolls in one unbelievable huge bulge over to the Edgbaston reservoir, and all that road going, and all the people dreaming in the immensity of it, and in Dudley I know by now the children must be crying in the land where they let the children cry, and tonight the stars'll be out, and don't you know that God is Pooh Bear? the evening star must be drooping and shedding her sparkler dims on the prairie, which is just before the coming of complete night that blesses the earth, darkens all the rivers, cups the peaks and folds the final shore in, and nobody, nobody knows what's going to happen to anybody besides the forlorn rags of growing old, I think of Admin, I even think of Old Admin the father we never found, I think of Admin.

All my love,

R. Lerner (aged 54 1/4)

[Scott Nielsen]

The Bird's Nest comment sounds a bit odd, certainly. I don't think it passes the sniff-test.

I also think Hollis' comments around Xia's companies being instrumental in moving half a billion people from the countryside to the cities is needless hyperbole. First, it's around 250 million over the last 25 years or so and and, secondly, 'instrumental' would do to be defined. Played a small part in a process of gigantic proportions more likely. Overselling just invites further scrutiny.

It is easy to be overwhelmed by China when doing business. I've seen CEOs of massively large corporations get weak at the knees after being given the grand tour. The scale of things makes it hard not to be overwhelmed and it sounds like Hollis has drunk the kool-aid especially with silly cliches like the Chinese not settling for being number two etc. The Chinese are not supermen; they sometimes succeed and sometimes fail.

None of this reflects on Xia himself as far as I'm concerned. Xia will have proven what he is all about by the end of summer.

[aj2k77]

I cannot find anything relating to Tony Xia and his public companies and the Bird's Nest. Private company?

[ciggiesnbeer]

The Bird's Nest comment sounds a bit odd, certainly. I don't think it passes the sniff-test.

I also think Hollis' comments around Xia's companies being instrumental in moving half a billion people from the countryside to the cities is needless hyperbole. First, it's around 250 million over the last 25 years or so and and, secondly, 'instrumental' would do to be defined. Played a small part in a process of gigantic proportions more likely. Overselling just invites further scrutiny.

It is easy to be overwhelmed by China when doing business. I've seen CEOs of massively large corporations get weak at the knees after being given the grand tour. The scale of things makes it hard not to be overwhelmed and it sounds like Hollis has drunk the kool-aid especially with silly cliches like the Chinese not settling for being number two etc. The Chinese are not supermen; they sometimes succeed and sometimes fail.

None of this reflects on Xia himself as far as I'm concerned. Xia will have proven what he is all about by the end of summer.

Yeah. I am feeling pretty chuffed overall with the new owner company but some of Hollis's remarks seem to be, well , just demonstrably wrong. Either he made it up, or Xia told him porkies,  there is some kind of language misunderstanding or some massive google fail on Recons involvement in Birds Nest.

I cant deny it is a tiny nagging worry.

[aj2k77]

XWHO worked on the Olympic forest park, at least according to this website http://www.bridge8.com/website/htmlcn/tenants_0092.htm

[Billy Walker]

This is what it says on the Innovative Financial Industry part of the RECON website:

"Relying on the Group's five largest industrial entities, Rui Kang finance the establishment of equity funds and the wisdom of urban construction and operation of the Fund, to mergers and acquisitions, equity investment, risk investment and incubation, etc. for industry consolidation, improve and upgrade power Group Industry Ecosystem. Fund consists of senior industry with extensive industry experience, resources and project management background as managing partner of the current industry mergers and acquisitions fund financing the total size of $ 50 billion. Meanwhile, the Group has Insurance (property insurance and life insurance), financial leasing, wealth and asset management, raised private equity funds, third-party payment, Internet banking and other licenses and teams in Hong Kong acquired the holding 1,2,4,6, 9 license securities and asset management services company in the US, Europe and gradually expand plans to buy stake in banking institutions."

Does he have access to big money? It's possible.