The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[paul_e]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

I don't think people are trying to be negative, it's just the last 5 years have left a lot of people expecting the worst and not trusting. We got our fingers burnt badly with Lerner and now we aren't likely to just give the benefit of any doubt straight up.

Show us not tell us has never been more apt.

The last line is absolutely true, but people need to give him time to show us in that case, he can't do much in the 23 hours that he's been involved, so any major judgements should be held off for at least a month or 2.

[Jimbo]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

The last bloke wasn't ambitious, he was a dreamer. There's a difference.

Exactly. I think the drive and ambition of an heir to a fortune is different to someone who's made his own fortune.

[aj2k77]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

I don't think people are trying to be negative, it's just the last 5 years have left a lot of people expecting the worst and not trusting. We got our fingers burnt badly with Lerner and now we aren't likely to just give the benefit of any doubt straight up.

Show us not tell us has never been more apt.

The last line is absolutely true, but people need to give him time to show us in that case, he can't do much in the 23 hours that he's been involved, so any major judgements should be held off for at least a month or 2.

Exactly. Leave the scare mongering to noses who hoped we'd be down in their slums for a few years, giving them something to play for.

Can anyone find anything genuinely suspicious about him so far?

[ciggiesnbeer]

Can anyone find anything genuinely suspicious about him so far?

His sunglasses and shoes ARE shifty to be fair.

[aj2k77]

Can anyone find anything genuinely suspicious about him so far?

His sunglasses and shoes ARE shifty to be fair.

Almost as if it's a disguise......

[clash city rocker]

The noses and Smethwick chances have had a good laugh at us this season..Well Tony nows your chance to put them firmly back in the shadow of the one and only Aston Villa. They must be praying it goes pear shaped but then that's how narrow minded they are. They need to be reminded of their place in the pecking order so Tony make it so.

[aj2k77]

They're still in our shadow, we could be in the confrence and still be bigger news then they are. No one is interested in them, out of their small pockets of support there's just no call for anything relating to them, they're of no interest.

[Clampy]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

Being negative is just the default setting for some. He's been with us for just under a day. A little patience wouldn't go amiss.

e

but just to say he might be good he might be bad lets just wait and see is saying nothing, you call it as you see it and take the consequences

I'm going to say he might be good, he might be bad so let's just wait and see, mainly because 24 hours ago, i'd never even heard of the bloke. You're suggesting that I should call it as I see it, so I am.

[john e]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

Being negative is just the default setting for some. He's been with us for just under a day. A little patience wouldn't go amiss.

e

but just to say he might be good he might be bad lets just wait and see is saying nothing, you call it as you see it and take the consequences

I'm going to say he might be good, he might be bad so let's just wait and see, mainly because 24 hours ago, i'd never even heard of the bloke. You're suggesting that I should call it as I see it, so I am.

when you got to the Euro elections you cant tick both boxes you know

[Clampy]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

Being negative is just the default setting for some. He's been with us for just under a day. A little patience wouldn't go amiss.

e

but just to say he might be good he might be bad lets just wait and see is saying nothing, you call it as you see it and take the consequences

I'm going to say he might be good, he might be bad so let's just wait and see, mainly because 24 hours ago, i'd never even heard of the bloke. You're suggesting that I should call it as I see it, so I am.

when you got to the Euro elections you cant tick both boxes you know

So I can't sit here and say 'let's wait and see' after he's been here just over a day? Why not?

[KevinGage]

It's strange that so many people are making such an effort to be negative. First it's not going to happen, then it happens but it's still bad because we don't know anything, then we find out a bit more but they pick holes in what he's said... He speaks of ambition but the last guy was also ambitious so that makes a worrying parallel?!

I don't think people are trying to be negative, it's just the last 5 years have left a lot of people expecting the worst and not trusting. We got our fingers burnt badly with Lerner and now we aren't likely to just give the benefit of any doubt straight up.

Show us not tell us has never been more apt.

The last line is absolutely true, but people need to give him time to show us in that case, he can't do much in the 23 hours that he's been involved, so any major judgements should be held off for at least a month or 2.

Exactly. Leave the scare mongering to noses who hoped we'd be down in their slums for a few years, giving them something to play for.

Can anyone find anything genuinely suspicious about him so far?

The company that he has highlighted as one of his main assets looks like a large loss-making mess.

He is talking about making us one of the top 3 clubs in world football today (yesterday it was just China) yet only waited until we were relegated to finalise the purchase.  If the money is truly available to fund that level of ambition, why wait until now?

He wears a Burton suit and shoes from Bacons.

[cheltenhamlion]

John E you are on a loser here. We have cash to spend and he is taking this far more seriously than Lerner ever did. By all means be sceptical, but dial in the "wrong un, shyster, chancer" stuff.

Judge on actions. And lighten up a bit. The well meaning man child has fucked off. That's worth a cheery pint in anyone's book.

[PaulWinch again]

All I'll say is we've spent the last few years lurching from one disaster to another. I can almost guarantee we'd have continued to fall with Lerner in charge. I don't know what will happen under the new owner, but at the moment there is at least the chance that we'll be in a better position than we were. I'm grateful for that feeling I've slight hope again, and I find it odd that some people seem desperate to jump to the negative. Yes it might all be hot air, but then again it might not.

[ChicagoLion]

Hollis has a fiduciary duty as an officer of the club to act in its best interests.

giggle

[chrisf]

John E you are on a loser here. We have cash to spend and he is taking this far more seriously than Lerner ever did. By all means be sceptical, but dial in the "wrong un, shyster, chancer" stuff.

Judge on actions. And lighten up a bit. The well meaning man child has fucked off. That's worth a cheery pint in anyone's book.

There's no reason to be accusing the guy of being a 'wrong un' etc but it would be very nice to have a clearer idea of who he was and what he's done.
All we have is the MSG company and vague stuff about infrastructure companies with wildy varying valuations and nothing backing it up.

The fact that Hollis is happy with the deal is some comfort but it still leaves me not having a clue whether our new owner has borrowed cash to buy us or is planning on borrowing more in future. Those are important details.