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Author Topic: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL  (Read 2840150 times)

Offline London Villan

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13770 on: May 19, 2016, 03:14:26 PM »
He has said more in that interview than mad randy did in the last six years!

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13771 on: May 19, 2016, 03:18:29 PM »
If there were 3 bidders and this shyster was the best of the bunch who the fuck were the other two the Cosa Nostra and isis

What makes you think he's a shyster?  We're currently being run by a guy who was very high up at one of the biggest auditing companies in the world.  Do you honestly think that Hollis wouldn't spot the sort of obvious 'iffy' things that have been reported on here?

The issue is that we're struggling to find info so some people are filling the info black hole with comparisons to Carson Yeung and getting all nervous because of it.  I'm quite uncomfortable with some of it which seems to be that he's going to be shit purely because he's Chinese and operates like most Chinese businessmen.

I sell used vehicles for a living, I can spot a 'wrong un' a mile of
I doubt he will even pass the FA's fit and proper test

There's no reason at all that he wouldn't pass it.

Unless you or your company have gone bankrupt, you've got a significant criminal conviction, you've been disbarred from a professional body or you're being officially investigated then you're going to pass.

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13772 on: May 19, 2016, 03:18:40 PM »
If there were 3 bidders and this shyster was the best of the bunch who the fuck were the other two the Cosa Nostra and isis

What makes you think he's a shyster?  We're currently being run by a guy who was very high up at one of the biggest auditing companies in the world.  Do you honestly think that Hollis wouldn't spot the sort of obvious 'iffy' things that have been reported on here?

The issue is that we're struggling to find info so some people are filling the info black hole with comparisons to Carson Yeung and getting all nervous because of it.  I'm quite uncomfortable with some of it which seems to be that he's going to be shit purely because he's Chinese and operates like most Chinese businessmen.

I sell used vehicles for a living, I can spot a 'wrong un' a mile of
I doubt he will even pass the FA's fit and proper test

You can turn it into a Chinese thing or a nuckledraggers thing if that's the way you roll
But I'm saying the blokes a fraud

You didn't even know who he was 12 hours ago. And didn't you sell me a Ford Fiesta with a dodgy gearbox?

Warranty ran out yesterday

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13773 on: May 19, 2016, 03:18:50 PM »
He has said more in that interview than mad randy did in the last six years!

Indeed he has. He's actually spoken. Words. Out of his mouth.

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13774 on: May 19, 2016, 03:19:37 PM »
The interview with Hollis has put my mind at rest at the moment. Speaks very highly of our Tone and one thing you can say about Hollis in the short time we've known him - he doesn't suffer fools gladly!

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-steve-hollis-explains-11357357?

One concern I do have though is do you think King and Bernstein were trying to put Lerner off this deal and hence why they walked?


Who knows, but I can say something - that interview has made me feel a lot more optimistic.

Offline peter w

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13775 on: May 19, 2016, 03:20:15 PM »
He was interviewed by Midlands today - you don't learn much as I think his English isn't up to a proper interview. Could only find it on Facebook, I'm afraid but I think that link should work even if you don't have it yourself.

Edit: the general thrust of it is Di Mateo is a candidate but we have a team looking at options, will probably take two weeks and that he reckons 50 million will be the budget depending on what the manager's plans are.

https://www.facebook.com/midlandstoday/videos/10154165183099761/

He seems very nervous there. £50m seems a hell of a lot.

Must have read my post.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13776 on: May 19, 2016, 03:28:41 PM »
Oh fuck, another 5 year plan!

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13777 on: May 19, 2016, 03:36:25 PM »
Just seen him on sky news. I hope Steve Hollis has got it right.

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13778 on: May 19, 2016, 03:39:07 PM »
Trusting Hollis on this matter is fine, absolutely fine as long as you are assuming his mandate was to get the best deal for the club, and not Randolph Lerner.

That's the bit where my uncertainty lies.

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13779 on: May 19, 2016, 03:42:05 PM »
If there were 3 bidders and this shyster was the best of the bunch who the fuck were the other two the Cosa Nostra and isis

What makes you think he's a shyster?  We're currently being run by a guy who was very high up at one of the biggest auditing companies in the world.  Do you honestly think that Hollis wouldn't spot the sort of obvious 'iffy' things that have been reported on here?

The issue is that we're struggling to find info so some people are filling the info black hole with comparisons to Carson Yeung and getting all nervous because of it.  I'm quite uncomfortable with some of it which seems to be that he's going to be shit purely because he's Chinese and operates like most Chinese businessmen.

I sell used vehicles for a living, I can spot a 'wrong un' a mile of
I doubt he will even pass the FA's fit and proper test

You can turn it into a Chinese thing or a nuckledraggers thing if that's the way you roll
But I'm saying the blokes a fraud

That's a pretty ridiculous statement to make.  He may turn out to be bad or he may be great, but you haven't possibly got enough information to make a call like that.

Frankly is sounds like you are hoping you are right.

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13780 on: May 19, 2016, 03:45:58 PM »
If there were 3 bidders and this shyster was the best of the bunch who the fuck were the other two the Cosa Nostra and isis

What makes you think he's a shyster?  We're currently being run by a guy who was very high up at one of the biggest auditing companies in the world.  Do you honestly think that Hollis wouldn't spot the sort of obvious 'iffy' things that have been reported on here?

The issue is that we're struggling to find info so some people are filling the info black hole with comparisons to Carson Yeung and getting all nervous because of it.  I'm quite uncomfortable with some of it which seems to be that he's going to be shit purely because he's Chinese and operates like most Chinese businessmen.

I sell used vehicles for a living, I can spot a 'wrong un' a mile of
I doubt he will even pass the FA's fit and proper test

You can turn it into a Chinese thing or a nuckledraggers thing if that's the way you roll
But I'm saying the blokes a fraud

That's a pretty ridiculous statement to make.  He may turn out to be bad or he may be great, but you haven't possibly got enough information to make a call like that.

Frankly is sounds like you are hoping you are right.

Your probably right and I have declared to early but thats the way of it

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13781 on: May 19, 2016, 04:10:57 PM »
Well I'm going to allow myself to be very happy. Renewed my season ticket this morning!  This week will be a celebration week for me. A new start for Villa. Here's to the future!

Offline not3bad

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13782 on: May 19, 2016, 04:11:40 PM »
P.S. Hold on to your seats!!

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13783 on: May 19, 2016, 04:14:41 PM »
Trusting Hollis on this matter is fine, absolutely fine as long as you are assuming his mandate was to get the best deal for the club, and not Randolph Lerner.

That's the bit where my uncertainty lies.

That's assuming Hollis had any role in negotiations and was not just Lerner's mouthpiece.   

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Re: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group
« Reply #13784 on: May 19, 2016, 04:15:17 PM »
I'm guessing you're also a little disappointed it's not someone with ridiculous amounts of money like Ellison for example. I'm thinking if this is a guy with similar resources to Lerner but who actually takes a proper interest and knows how to run a business like this successful that's still got to be a big improvement. Let's face it, we were not going back up again with Lerner in charge so at least we should be able to look forward to being back in the top flight, and with a bit of luck we might become at least a top half club again.

 


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