The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[alan_clarke]

Just met Gianluca Vialli - he told me he was part of an Italian / Chinese group who made an offer for the club last summer. Said Randy turned it down but didn't know why.

[conman]

Just met Gianluca Vialli - he told me he was part of an Italian / Chinese group who made an offer for the club last summer. Said Randy turned it down but didn't know why.

Vialli might know why

[LeeB]

Just met Gianluca Vialli - he told me he was part of an Italian / Chinese group who made an offer for the club last summer. Said Randy turned it down but didn't know why.

There's a part of me that would love to think Vialli wanted to get involved thanks to him remembering us serenading him at Wembley in the 1990 pre-season friendlies.

[Percy McCarthy]

Just met Gianluca Vialli - he told me he was part of an Italian / Chinese group who made an offer for the club last summer. Said Randy turned it down but didn't know why.

Vialli might know why

Lol.

[Villa in Denmark]

A bit envious that Everton look to have secured a takeover deal. Look what we're  lumbered with - useless money men who haven't a single clue about football. The demise of our great club will only gather pace next season with these buffoons in charge. Somebody rescue us fast!!

Been thinking about the supposed Everton takeover and asking "why not us".  I just wonder if it is the case, as it might have been with Manchester City, that they are the city rivals of one of the biggest clubs around.  Can't buy Liverpool or Manchester United?  Buy their city rivals and exploit that rivalry.   

Is there anything concrete on this takeover or is it all just rumour and Twitter folk creaming their pants like the Max Lerner on the board story?

I posted this a while back and haven't seen anything to suggest it's "a false narrative" yet.

Most of the articles I've seen around their new stadium proposals have said "in excess of £300M". As I've never seen a build of that nature come in on time and budget £400M didn't seem too outlandish.
I thought the ground share idea had been ditched ages ago which is why Liverpool have cracked on with the planning applications for redeveloping Anfield and are currently building a new main stand above and behind the existing stand.

If both parties are of equal worth that would give them a combined wealth of in round numbers £900M. That in itself us a bit of an assumption as I've only seen the one guy mentioned when it comes to money.

If they've got to fork out £200M to buy Everton, plus for the sake of avoiding argument £300M to build the new stadium, that's over half of their combined net worth sunk into a venture that tends to be a money pit. If they're then going to go off looking for players to "take them to the next level" they better be prepared to throw another £50-100M at it over the following 2-3 years and you're well over 60% of their net worth.
I can't see anyone signing up for that, and that's before you get into their net worth does not necessarily mean liquid assets that could be used to fund such a purchase.
It could and probably would include property investments, share portfolios and fixed term bonds none of which could be easily cashed in unless a significant proportion of the share portfolios were self managed and not part of a managed fund.

That's why I talked about financing it.

The only other way that the figures stack up is if they get Liverpool City Council to at least part fund the new ground as a regeneration project, something they refused to countenance as irresponsible given the current economic climate for local authorities as recently as the end of last month.

[PeterWithesShin]

Did we dodge one with (in)Sane?

Bordeaux have indefinitely suspended goalkeeper Jerome Prior and defender Lamine Sane following an altercation after their 4-3 home defeat by Nantes in the French Cup.

In a brief statement, the club said that the players were involved in a 'serious incident in the dressing room' after Wednesday night's loss.

French newspaper L'Equipe claim the pair came to blows in a fierce fight before being separated by security officials.

Bordeaux, who sit 11th in Ligue 1, bowed out of the French Cup at the last-16 stage after Alejandro Bedoya's 118th-minute goal earned Nantes victory in extra-time.

Prior was left out of the squad for two games in November after a dispute with Bordeaux's coaching staff, while he verbally clashed with fans the previous month while returning from an away game.

Sane, who was a January target for Premier League sides Swansea and Aston Villa, was stripped of the captaincy last month.

Bordeaux's statement read: 'Following serious incidents in the dressing room after the Coupe de France match against Nantes, Jerome Prior and Lamine Sane have been suspended indefinitely.

'No further communication will be made on the subject and nobody will respond to any interview on this decision.'

[dave.woodhall]

A bit envious that Everton look to have secured a takeover deal. Look what we're  lumbered with - useless money men who haven't a single clue about football. The demise of our great club will only gather pace next season with these buffoons in charge. Somebody rescue us fast!!

Been thinking about the supposed Everton takeover and asking "why not us".  I just wonder if it is the case, as it might have been with Manchester City, that they are the city rivals of one of the biggest clubs around.  Can't buy Liverpool or Manchester United?  Buy their city rivals and exploit that rivalry.   

Is there anything concrete on this takeover or is it all just rumour and Twitter folk creaming their pants like the Max Lerner on the board story?

I posted this a while back and haven't seen anything to suggest it's "a false narrative" yet.

Most of the articles I've seen around their new stadium proposals have said "in excess of £300M". As I've never seen a build of that nature come in on time and budget £400M didn't seem too outlandish.
I thought the ground share idea had been ditched ages ago which is why Liverpool have cracked on with the planning applications for redeveloping Anfield and are currently building a new main stand above and behind the existing stand.

If both parties are of equal worth that would give them a combined wealth of in round numbers £900M. That in itself us a bit of an assumption as I've only seen the one guy mentioned when it comes to money.

If they've got to fork out £200M to buy Everton, plus for the sake of avoiding argument £300M to build the new stadium, that's over half of their combined net worth sunk into a venture that tends to be a money pit. If they're then going to go off looking for players to "take them to the next level" they better be prepared to throw another £50-100M at it over the following 2-3 years and you're well over 60% of their net worth.
I can't see anyone signing up for that, and that's before you get into their net worth does not necessarily mean liquid assets that could be used to fund such a purchase.
It could and probably would include property investments, share portfolios and fixed term bonds none of which could be easily cashed in unless a significant proportion of the share portfolios were self managed and not part of a managed fund.

That's why I talked about financing it.

The only other way that the figures stack up is if they get Liverpool City Council to at least part fund the new ground as a regeneration project, something they refused to countenance as irresponsible given the current economic climate for local authorities as recently as the end of last month.

It's all getting a bit daft. The most ludicrous rumour can be given legs by "They're stupid enough to do that". Lerner Jr on the board, Bodymoor and all its contents sold and my own favourite the Stripeys being sold to the richest man in China weeks after Randy turned him down. All evidence of How Low Have We Sunk, all bollocks.

[AVH87]

It's all getting a bit daft. The most ludicrous rumour can be given legs by "They're stupid enough to do that". Lerner Jr on the board, Bodymoor and all its contents sold and my own favourite the Stripeys being sold to the richest man in China weeks after Randy turned him down. All evidence of How Low Have We Sunk, all bollocks.

Someone, somewhere, is having a good laugh at how easy it is. They escalate stupidly quickly, not just online stuff, people I see at games were asking 'what about Lerner's son joining the board then?'

[adrenachrome]

Extending the much used analogy that RL was like Nero, fiddling while Rome burned,  I tried to start a rumour that Randy would appoint his horse  to the board like that Caligula chappy. Awful film that, but Helen Mirren was in fine form.

[Villa in Denmark]

Extending the much used analogy that RL was like Nero, fiddling while Rome burned,  I tried to start a rumour that Randy would appoint his horse  to the board like that Caligula chappy. Awful film that, but Helen Mirren was in fine form.

Get with the story. We can't afford a horse, but we've got plenty of donkeys.

[ChicagoLion]

Extending the much used analogy that RL was like Nero, fiddling while Rome burned,  I tried to start a rumour that Randy would appoint his horse  to the board like that Caligula chappy. Awful film that, but Helen Mirren was in fine form.

Get with the story. We can't afford a horse, but we've got plenty of donkeys.

First Mervin King and now Gestede appointed to the board How low have........

[brian green]

I rather suspect all the Lerners and their closest are Elephants not Donkeys.  Not many Donkeys on Wall St.

[peter w]

Didn't the General say as much?

[brian green]

I think so but my memory of the General is warped by jumping up and down with him and kissing him on the top of his head that wonderful wonderful night when Der Hammer pulled out his big one against the knuckledraggers.

[dcdavecollett]

Er, when was this, Brian?