The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[Dante Lavelli]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

I agree, but that is looking at a small time frame.  Since he became chairman (2001?) they have slowly grown to point now where they now make a consistent profit.  This means they can afford to make such mistakes.  Over time they have identified players and sold them at a profit, each time the club (not just team) seemed to grow.  Carrick > Berbatov > Modric > Bale.

That is a model that we could follow in my opinion.

[not3bad]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

I agree, but that is looking at a small time frame.  Since he became chairman (2001?) they have slowly grown to point now where they now make a consistent profit.  This means they can afford to make such mistakes.  Over time they have identified players and sold them at a profit, each time the club (not just team) seemed to grow.  Carrick > Berbatov > Modric > Bale.

That is a model that we could follow in my opinion.

Southampton ay doing bad neither.

[Toronto Villa]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

what's he had, 10 managers in the last 13 years or something crazy? I think Levy is well overated.

[pauliewalnuts]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

what's he had, 10 managers in the last 13 years or something crazy? I think Levy is well overated.

8

He's obviously doing something right, though, as they're performing significantly better than we are these days. I am sure he makes mistakes, but one thing Spurs totally get and we have failed to get for years is the need to maintain the value of your squad. It isn't an easy thing to do, and I am sure they have fucked up with some players (both incomings and outgoings), but they've done a much better job of it than we have.

All that money Randy spunked into the club for four years was just allowed to seep out. Money spent rather than invested.

[andyh]

I would think that Mr.Allen is going to be distracted for the next couple of weeks?
I'm sure the small matter of the Superbowl will take more than a little of his attention. 

[godzvilla]

I would think that Mr.Allen is going to be distracted for the next couple of weeks?
I'm sure the small matter of the Superbowl will take more than a little of his attention. 

If this guy can,t multi-task ....who can ?!............Godzvilla!

[ozzjim]

Never going to happen.

Love the assistant suggestion though. Wasn't he great back in the day?!

[Clampy]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

what's he had, 10 managers in the last 13 years or something crazy? I think Levy is well overated.

8

He's obviously doing something right, though, as they're performing significantly better than we are these days. I am sure he makes mistakes, but one thing Spurs totally get and we have failed to get for years is the need to maintain the value of your squad. It isn't an easy thing to do, and I am sure they have fucked up with some players (both incomings and outgoings), but they've done a much better job of it than we have.

All that money Randy spunked into the club for four years was just allowed to seep out. Money spent rather than invested.

You could argue though that if they'd done that well, they wouldn't have got through 8 managers.

[Toronto Villa]

Don't disagree with the broader point you are making Paulie regarding our wastefulness but Spurs for all of things they have done better than us at still have very little to show for it. And as has been pointed out above by Clamps the managerial merry-go-round at the club suggests a relative degree of failure. Not dismissing at all that since that infamous night at their place leading 4-1 our respective fortunes have gone in very different directions. We have not remotely taken advantage of where we were, but isn't that all very Aston Villa?

Just to point out on Levy, including Pochettino, has appointed 9 managers, and technically has had 10 report to him. Graham left soon after he arrived. Even Doug would be proud of that record.

[levico]

I agree this is not going to happen especially since it's plastered all over the Mail.

'Secret meetings' my a***.

[Salsa Party Animal]

Wish Paul Allen loan us 12 millions to buy a striker and midfielder and sort out take over in May.

[cfetters]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

I just don't see how Allen is an option at this point, to be truthful.

Living in Seattle and enjoying what the Seahawks are doing right now (I went to the NFC Championship and it was bonkers), he's up to his eyeballs in a program that has gone to back-to-back Super Bowls. Add to it the fact that he also owns the Portland Trailblazers - I just don't see why he would want to stick his neck out in Brum, even at a discount. It would be a curious purchase at best.

I think the biggest point working against Villa is that Allen simply isn't a soccer man. I don't know how much of one Lerner was when he bought the Villa, but Allen's interest is cursory at best. His involvement in Sounders is nil, other than he has a share in the interest because the Sounders play their matches where the Seahawks do - CenturyLink - and Allen saved the NFL in Seattle because he sold the taxpayers on a stadium that would be used by both American Football AND Soccer.

But all things being equal, he doesn't have any involvement in hardly any aspect of what the Sounders do, especially day-to-day.

Again, there's nothing stopping him from buying the club and then handing it off to Fox, et al and just setting the thing on auto pilot, but that hasn't been his style. He raised the 12th Man Flag before Sunday's NFC Championship game and is revered around the city of Seattle for what he's done for the professional teams here.

I'd be thrilled if he was the one to pick up the mantle from Lerner, but it doesn't seem to match Allen's MO or personality.

-C.

Interesting except none of that ties up with him having had discussions over buying Southampton a few years back which suggests there's at least some interest in the league, specifically toward 'distressed assets' as Southampton were at the time.

The only thing I can say about that, is I suspect if you're right about the 'distressed assets' angle - Allen probably figured out pretty quickly buying a soccer team in England is the headache that keeps on giving, and that Lerner - whom I'm sure he knows through the NFL - would be frank about his dealings in England and the reasons why he's looking to get out.

But interest in 'distressed assets', if we go with that premise - is a far cry from having a strong desire to own a soccer team. Like I said before, Allen has never really shown an interest in it, and the Southampton takeover could simply have been one of many situations he looked at at the time to see if it made good financial sense to swoop in. Obviously it didn't happen then, and I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen now.

[Ad@m]

i'd be delighted if Allen just became a benefactor and left day to day for someone else. Bit like Henry at Liverpool who is really a baseball man. I don't get all the angst over whether Randy goes to games or not. I'm pretty sure Sheik Mansoor doesn't. But they have in place good people to run the club which is critical if we are to move forward, with or without Randy.

ditto - Randy could do the same.  Joe Lewis probably hands over less money to Levy each season than Randy goes to Villa.  But because Levy provides leadership and vision the money is better spent.  I'm not saying Levy is ideal but it shows that having an absent owner is not necessarily a problem.   

Apart from Eriksen and maybe Chadli, spurs spent that Bale money woefully.

what's he had, 10 managers in the last 13 years or something crazy? I think Levy is well overated.

8

He's obviously doing something right, though, as they're performing significantly better than we are these days. I am sure he makes mistakes, but one thing Spurs totally get and we have failed to get for years is the need to maintain the value of your squad. It isn't an easy thing to do, and I am sure they have fucked up with some players (both incomings and outgoings), but they've done a much better job of it than we have.

All that money Randy spunked into the club for four years was just allowed to seep out. Money spent rather than invested.

You could argue though that if they'd done that well, they wouldn't have got through 8 managers.

Or you could say they've done that we'll because they've gone through 8 managers.

Sticking with a manager doesn't necessarily bring success.

Someone should point that out to Randy too.

[Brian Taylor]

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SCOTTISH LOTTERY WINNER TO BUY RANGERS?!
It is claimed that a Scottish Lottery winner is hoping to buy Glasgow Rangers! His wife has said that she has no idea what he would have bought if he had got a fourth number up!!!

[Dante Lavelli]

Anyone caught up discussing Levy may have missed my point:  It's not what the individual 'daniel levy' has bought to spurs, it is the fat that an absent owner Joe Lewis has delegated autonomy to him.  I'm sure there are loads of egos in football who would love that power (plus Randy's current subsidy) to run a club.

I don't mind Randy living on a boat, sipping pina-coladas.  That is his choice, but he needs to ensure there is a structure in place that has authority to spend his cash (within parameters).  Look at Man City, they've poached the entire back room staff from Barcelona.  We keeping putting all our money on Red/black (MON/lambert) with no safety blanket in-between.