The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[brian green]

Twenty one might not quite be an anagram of What No Tent but vingt et un is an anagram of In Tent Guv. German is not significant being only Nude In Swansea. In Mandarin 21 is written = + - with the plus sign shaped like a Christian cross. Might be a portent if Randy were not Jewish.

[Des Little]

Twenty one might not quite be an anagram of What No Tent but vingt et un is an anagram of In Tent Guv. German is not significant being only Nude In Swansea. In Mandarin 21 is written = + - with the plus sign shaped like a Christian cross. Might be a portent if Randy were not Jewish.

Is it magic mushroom season already?

[mr underhill]

yeah, goo goo barabajagal, baby. far out man

[paul_e]

How long were Valencia waiting for their takeover? It must be close to a decade.

Not really relevant though, the difference in the TV deals on it's own makes the appeal of Spanish clubs (other than the main 2) much less than many other countries.  Monaco would probably be a better benchmark (although the stadium and expansion restrictions make them less appealing than they should be) they had an even worse time of it than us and were relegated and then right down the wrong end of ligue 2 when they were bought out, I can't imagine they were up for sale long, a new board had only been in place for 18months so even if they instantly targeted a sale that's as long as it will have been.

[Dante Lavelli]

How long were Valencia waiting for their takeover? It must be close to a decade.

Not really relevant though, the difference in the TV deals on it's own makes the appeal of Spanish clubs (other than the main 2) much less than many other countries.  Monaco would probably be a better benchmark (although the stadium and expansion restrictions make them less appealing than they should be) they had an even worse time of it than us and were relegated and then right down the wrong end of ligue 2 when they were bought out, I can't imagine they were up for sale long, a new board had only been in place for 18months so even if they instantly targeted a sale that's as long as it will have been.

Weren't Valencia burdened by the debt of the new stadium too?  Whoever bought them would be starting from minus £200m (guess) whereas at least randy has paid off all our debts with his own cash (albeit some may be factored into the asking price).

[kippaxvilla2]

At the risk of being hopefully totally wrong, it is my assertion that we are as close to a sale now as we were the day after Randolph took over.

[paul_e]

At the risk of being hopefully totally wrong, it is my assertion that we are as close to a sale now as we were the day after Randolph took over.

You are totally wrong, simply because a bid of roughly our value made today would be accepted, the day after Randy took over it wouldn't have been.

That doesn't mean a takeover is weeks away, it just means that the potential for a takeover to happen is much higher than it was then.

[pauliewalnuts]

The takeover thing will just happen. Might be tomorrow, might be in a year, might be in three years.

I think we really just need to accept that in all likelihood one of the first things we'll hear about it will be when it actually happens. We're not likely to hear snippets about deals being done or people being interested, nothing like that, I don't think, I reckon it will all be hush hash and catch us when we're not expecting it.

[Percy McCarthy]

At the risk of being hopefully totally wrong, it is my assertion that we are as close to a sale now as we were the day after Randolph took over.

Hopefully? If we don't get taken over until the year 2525 we are still 8 years closer to that than we were the day after Randy took over.

[pauliewalnuts]

At the risk of being hopefully totally wrong, it is my assertion that we are as close to a sale now as we were the day after Randolph took over.

Hopefully? If we don't get taken over until the year 2525 we are still 8 years closer to that than we were the day after Randy took over.

*internal jukebox springs into action*

[paul_e]

I'm not so sure about that, I think the week or 2 before will have hints towards a deal being in place.  We might not get a name or anything irrefutable but I'd expect people to be noticed around the club and there to be a bit of a slow build towards it.

I expect something will have happened by the end of September, either a takeover or some info from Lerner, I can't imagine it being left unremarked any longer than that. It may of course be an announcement of a new CEO to oversee things until the takeover goes ahead, which I'd still count as an update on the process.

[brian green]

My son Damon said of Lerner that he got the little things right and the big things wrong. As every empty day passes I draw closer to the conclusion that the biggest thing by far that Lerner has got wrong was the precipitous placing if the club on the market and allowing the time between the 2013-14 season and the 2014-15 season to become a vacuum of uncertainty.
I have always tried to think the best of Randy Lerner but if all this angst results only in us falling into the hands of cheapskate asset strippers , his name will not be remembered fondly in my house.

[pauliewalnuts]

I have always tried to think the best of Randy Lerner but if all this angst results only in us falling into the hands of cheapskate asset strippers , his name will not be remembered fondly in my house.

I think he has, ultimately, got bored of it, and that's the main problem. He's had enough. I think the big things v little things suggestion is pretty spot on, really.

FWIW, I have lots of criticisms of him, and understand that it's easy to suggest he should care about anything more than the money when it's not our money we're talking about, but I genuinely think he'd do the Doug thing and not sell us to people with bad intentions.

Doug managed to spot those shysters Gilette and Hicks a mile off. I'd like to think Randy would be having none of that, either. Whether he'd be able to spot them, though .....

[PeterWithesShin]

If he sold us to asset strippers none of us would think much of him. A pretty obvious point really. May as well add, if he sells us to someone who is going to make us great again then we'll all think of him fondly and thank him.

[Dante Lavelli]

I expect something will have happened by the end of September, either a takeover or some info from Lerner, I can't imagine it being left unremarked any longer than that. It may of course be an announcement of a new CEO to oversee things until the takeover goes ahead, which I'd still count as an update on the process.

If I was buying the club then I would not be doing anything in September i.e. when the window is closed.  We could be certs for relegation by the end of December (theoretically) which would result in a drop in the value of the club.  If a deal is close, I'd guess that it will be struck either very soon or not until Nov/Dec.