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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5460 on: May 26, 2014, 10:53:29 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5461 on: May 26, 2014, 10:56:17 AM »
If Lerner has really done that then he's an utter fuckwit and were screwed.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt but with our Boards track record that's quite hard I'm afraid.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5462 on: May 26, 2014, 11:02:47 AM »
Was there any more info on those two planes that trees spotted a week or so ago and everyone was getting excited about ?

Someone was trying to convince me on here that one belonged to the new owners and the other the lawyers, to good a coincidence not to be true that they were both there at the same time

I remained unconvinced



One left after three days, the one belonging to the law firm left at 7.50 this morning.
But why would any potential buyer fly to Brum complete with his lawyers when the bloke selling is in New York?
It don't make sense.

If the lawyers are doing the due dilligence, then I'd expect them to be in Bham, because I'd guess all the books etc. they have to check concerning Aston Villa are in B6 or VP. I'm not saying it's certainly Rich and his possible consortium, but he said it couple years ago that he's not interested in PL...it is possible that he has changed his mind since then.

I don't get it why people in here are so adamant that there's no deal in place or being done, god, Villa fans are even more miserable pessimistic basta...geezers than we finns are, and that really takes some doing :D.

If they're looking at the books I would expect them to be wherever their offices are, with the books in electronic form in front of them.

Exactly. This notion that anything would be done at B6 is very old world. Buying a business accountants and solicitors work from their offices with the electronic details.

The man fronting the consortium, an M Neville, 33 Acacia Avenue, Solihull has talked about the exciting new world of broadband apparently.  Whatever it is it sounds exciting.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5463 on: May 26, 2014, 11:08:17 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5464 on: May 26, 2014, 11:09:02 AM »
I hear that he will be bringing a nutritionist for the players:  they will be having PASTA twice a week, and pie and chips are to be banned on match days. This is revolutionary.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5465 on: May 26, 2014, 11:15:38 AM »
The sending of 'the books' for the first time by dint of electronic mail was a very tense moment.  As the send button was pressed audible shrieks could be heard.  Itk.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5466 on: May 26, 2014, 11:17:54 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5467 on: May 26, 2014, 11:20:54 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5468 on: May 26, 2014, 11:26:10 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.
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It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.

No panicking, that'll start into July if theres no one interested then.

I've just seen enough of Lerner and Faulkner decision making to know that we're run by incompetent fools I'm afraid.  Hence they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5469 on: May 26, 2014, 11:31:06 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.

Exactly. Each time I look at this thread things seem to become slightly more hysterical.

Lerner had to say something at the end of the season. If he hadn't the calls to sack Lambert and spend money would have continued unabated. We now know where we stand; that the club is for sale but that nothing is imminent and that during the transition Lambert and Falkner are looking after affairs. It might not be what we want to hear but given the circumstances it is the sensible, pragmatic thing to do.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5470 on: May 26, 2014, 11:35:25 AM »
He's put the up for sale.  He's appointed an agent to go to market.  Interested buyers will be asked to submit their proposals.  I am imagining there is some sort of deadline set for submission.  Then the agent does its work and recommends the most credible proposal to the owner.  Once this happens legals and the like take some time after that.  None of that is achievable in two weeks.

He hasn't got a buyer lined up.  This has some time to go yet.  Lets just enjoy the World Cup.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2014, 11:38:18 AM by kippaxvilla2 »

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5471 on: May 26, 2014, 11:39:41 AM »
It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.

Exactly. Each time I look at this thread things seem to become slightly more hysterical.

Lerner had to say something at the end of the season. If he hadn't the calls to sack Lambert and spend money would have continued unabated. We now know where we stand; that the club is for sale but that nothing is imminent and that during the transition Lambert and Falkner are looking after affairs. It might not be what we want to hear but given the circumstances it is the sensible, pragmatic thing to do.

It appears Lerner in his usual ill considered haphazard manner has fucked up the sale. Instead of quietly looking for a buyer, he announces his desperation to sell and thereby immediately devalues his asset. Reports suggest he wants as much wedge as possible back. He is now negotiating from a very weak position, as a distressed owner desperate for a sale. Does he really want £200m? Or is it a negotiating tool?  What kind of insane tactic would that be?I now foresee this rumbling on for quite some time, damaging the club possibly irreparably whilst it does. Cheers Randolph, you screwed the pooch again!

Because you think that's what's happened, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's hardly drawing a long bow though is it, unless Lerner does have a buyer of course that nobody knows about.

But if he doesn't, then this is exactly what he's done.

The lack of any leaks is unnerving, usually this is only if there's nothing to tell.

But's it's only been two weeks and it's seemingly panic stations already.

Exactly. Each time I look at this thread things seem to become slightly more hysterical.

Lerner had to say something at the end of the season. If he hadn't the calls to sack Lambert and spend money would have continued unabated. We now know where we stand; that the club is for sale but that nothing is imminent and that during the transition Lambert and Falkner are looking after affairs. It might not be what we want to hear but given the circumstances it is the sensible, pragmatic thing to do.

Yeah great business strategy. Wait until the transfer window opens (one of only two periods of time when you can strengthen) to announce that the Club is for sale and we are in transition. Meaning were about as unattractive as we can be for player targets and are in total limbo as supporters.

The very time we ave the opportunity to strengthen and we can't as we're effectively paralyzed while Lerner finds a buyer. If I was a buyer I'd be making him sweat after that announcement he made I know that much.





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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5472 on: May 26, 2014, 11:41:49 AM »
He's put the up for sale.  He's appointed an agent to go to market.  Interested buyers will be asked to submit their proposals.  I am imagining there is some sort of deadline set for submission.  Then the agent does its work and recommends the most credible proposal to the owner.  Once this happens legals and the like take some time after that.  None of that is achievable in two weeks.

He hasn't got a buyer lined up.  This has some time to go yet.  Lets just enjoy the World Cup.

How do you know? Do you have direct line at Lerner?!

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5473 on: May 26, 2014, 11:43:52 AM »
Shakes head.  What do you think Merrill Lynch have to do then when they have been instructed to 'advise on the sale of Aston Villa!'

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread (now with new poll!)
« Reply #5474 on: May 26, 2014, 11:44:15 AM »
Some positive news-the red battery terminal on my car has a big plus sign on it.

 


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