The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[kippaxvilla2]

I'd be surprised if there's virtually anyone on this site who didn't appreciate and enjoy those early years. 

Unfortunately if he is off his legacy will be a club in virtually the same position as when he took over and caused by a lurch not a gradual change in investment policy underpinned by shocking managerial and board appointments.  I truly believe he is a philanthropist and not a businessman.

[dave.woodhall]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

Who do you mean?. Mon and Lambert. Most people wanted them. Gerald Houllier was a manager of some pedigree. Only Alex McCleish you could argue was a poor choice. What does the etc mean?

Of all the what ifs of modern time, I do wonder what would have happened had Houllier's health held up even for another six months so he would have had a summer of transfers to work with.

[not3bad]

If Lerner sells us on and chooses a good new owner this Summer then he will be remembered with fondness.

[kippaxvilla2]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

Who do you mean?. Mon and Lambert. Most people wanted them. Gerald Houllier was a manager of some pedigree. Only Alex McCleish you could argue was a poor choice. What does the etc mean?

I disagree about the choice of Houllier hardly anyone expected or wanted him at the time.  And the etc was the appointment of Paul Faulkner as Chief Executive.  Aa complete novice and almost entirely out of his depth.

[maidstonevillain]

It is difficult to say whether he has been a success or a failure. Because we will never know where we would have been now if he hadn't come along.
However, I for one think it would probably have been a worse place.

[not3bad]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

Who do you mean?. Mon and Lambert. Most people wanted them. Gerald Houllier was a manager of some pedigree. Only Alex McCleish you could argue was a poor choice. What does the etc mean?

I disagree about the choice of Houllier hardly anyone expected or wanted him at the time.  And the etc was the appointment of Paul Faulkner as Chief Executive.  Aa complete novice and almost entirely out of his depth.

Considering Faulkner was appointed just as the real austerity measures began to kick in I'd say he's done as well as could be expected (Alex Mcleish appointment aside).

[aj2k77]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

I'm not defending the last three years at all, but to say that he should somehow be penalised for 'failure' and has done nothing worth praising is ridiculous.

He's not being penalised for failure, it's business. In business if you fail you tend to lose money.

[kippaxvilla2]

If Lerner sells us on and chooses a good new owner this Summer then he will be remembered with fondness.

Doug sold us to a good new owner and is still reviled.

[PeterWithe]

Despite the last few dodgy seasons and the bizarre appointment of McLeish, he came along with the best of intentions and threw a shit load of money at our club. It's something I'll always be grateful for even if it didn't quite work out.

That pretty much echos my thoughts on Lerner, hes spent an enormous proportion of his wealth on us, utterly wasted most of it but I'll think of him fondly when he's gone.

[not3bad]

If Lerner sells us on and chooses a good new owner this Summer then he will be remembered with fondness.

Doug sold us to a good new owner and is still reviled.

Not half as reviled as he used to be.

[dave.woodhall]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

I'm not defending the last three years at all, but to say that he should somehow be penalised for 'failure' and has done nothing worth praising is ridiculous.

He's not being penalised for failure, it's business. In business if you fail you tend to lose money.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/27/rbs-bonuses-loss-pay-market-rate

[Toronto Villa]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

Who do you mean?. Mon and Lambert. Most people wanted them. Gerald Houllier was a manager of some pedigree. Only Alex McCleish you could argue was a poor choice. What does the etc mean?

Of all the what ifs of modern time, I do wonder what would have happened had Houllier's health held up even for another six months so he would have had a summer of transfers to work with.

I'll always wonder the same. What if Houllier was appointed and not MON? How would the money have been spent differently? And certainly had he remained healthy how would the McLeish money have been spent. We already know who he did buy and the excellent Cabaye who was going to join. That he became ill is just so unfortunate because it denied us those possibilities and off course led to the catastrophe of McLeish. But as bad as the last few seasons have been in total, there are individual parts to that which cannot be levelled at the owner. I've always that it is important to compartmentalize criticism. Not everything is shit or indeed has been.

[fbriai]

Well, it would look ridiculous as 'pamster'.

Ha ha! Superb, monsieur.

[aj2k77]

He has made some bad mistakes though Dave.  I'm not saying he's fcuked us or anything but the appointments have been bad etc.

I'm not defending the last three years at all, but to say that he should somehow be penalised for 'failure' and has done nothing worth praising is ridiculous.

He's not being penalised for failure, it's business. In business if you fail you tend to lose money.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/27/rbs-bonuses-loss-pay-market-rate

Randy isn't an employee is he? Bankers wages are more like a players wage at a failing club.

He owns the club, has spent £200m+ on turning a side that finished 15th on 42 points and made a small operating loss into a side that finishes 15/16th on 38pts and makes massive losses. How would him making a loss on his venture be a punishment?

[ronshirt]

the General returning

The General has for quite a time been forced, I believe, to keep his own counsel. It must've tortured his soul to do so. Especially now that we are so near to realising his prophecy of finishing fourth.