The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[N'ZMAV]

Excellent.

I hope they get a move on

[brian green]

My hunch, no more than that, is that the bidders for the club are being asked to accept the club with a new manager in place, probably Pearson.  Possibly one or more of the bidders don't want to have their hands tied managerially and that is what is causing the hiatus.

[passport1]

Randy making a succesful sale of the club.I wonder what odds the bookies would give on that?

[frank black]

Same as Leicester for the prem

[Villa in Denmark]

Randy making a succesful sale of the club.I wonder what odds the bookies would give on that?

Define successful.

Your idea of successful might be very different from Lerner's, which might be different again from Hollis'

[Villa in Denmark]

My hunch, no more than that, is that the bidders for the club are being asked to accept the club with a new manager in place, probably Pearson.  Possibly one or more of the bidders don't want to have their hands tied managerially and that is what is causing the hiatus.

But why would Lerner want to go to the hassle of appointing another manager, when he can just sit out the next 10 days and hand the whole shit storm off to someone else.
He can't cause any more damage now. He can't correct any of the mistakes now and given his record on appointing or approving managers, you'd think anyone would take his recommendation as a 100% do not touch with a barge pole certificate.

It would be like selling a second hand car and there's 2 bidders, but you're insisting on giving it that metallic puke green respray you've been getting to get done for the last 12 months before selling it.

[DB]

Yeah. I would think any new owner wants their own guy in place.

[OCD]

My hunch, no more than that, is that the bidders for the club are being asked to accept the club with a new manager in place, probably Pearson.  Possibly one or more of the bidders don't want to have their hands tied managerially and that is what is causing the hiatus.

But why would Lerner want to go to the hassle of appointing another manager, when he can just sit out the next 10 days and hand the whole shit storm off to someone else.
He can't cause any more damage now. He can't correct any of the mistakes now and given his record on appointing or approving managers, you'd think anyone would take his recommendation as a 100% do not touch with a barge pole certificate.

It would be like selling a second hand car and there's 2 bidders, but you're insisting on giving it that metallic puke green respray you've been getting to get done for the last 12 months before selling it.

Except that Lerner is only involved as he wants to be. Hollis has presumably done the leg work, Lerner presumably knows who Hollis has selected and can just let things proceed if he wishes. The only reason he might not would be if he has a preferred bidder and they have a condition that they choose who they want.

[Des Little]

Surely the prospective buyers will have sat down with Pearson and any other candidates that Little/Hollis have identified?  I would expect that it'll be the new owner's decision and no one else's, hence the delay. 

[Villa in Denmark]

My hunch, no more than that, is that the bidders for the club are being asked to accept the club with a new manager in place, probably Pearson.  Possibly one or more of the bidders don't want to have their hands tied managerially and that is what is causing the hiatus.

But why would Lerner want to go to the hassle of appointing another manager, when he can just sit out the next 10 days and hand the whole shit storm off to someone else.
He can't cause any more damage now. He can't correct any of the mistakes now and given his record on appointing or approving managers, you'd think anyone would take his recommendation as a 100% do not touch with a barge pole certificate.

It would be like selling a second hand car and there's 2 bidders, but you're insisting on giving it that metallic puke green respray you've been getting to get done for the last 12 months before selling it.

Except that Lerner is only involved as he wants to be. Hollis has presumably done the leg work, Lerner presumably knows who Hollis has selected and can just let things proceed if he wishes. The only reason he might not would be if he has a preferred bidder and they have a condition that they choose who they want.

Hollis or Lerner, the point's the same.  If there is a takeover in the offing and there are 2 or 3 suitors, there's no way on earth a new manager will be appointed early in may unless all 3 - 4 parties are agreed on on one candidate or a takeover has gone through.

Otherwise you're waiting until you've got at least as far as letters of intent and Hollis having some sort of agreement or understanding from a new owner to go out and get the new manager.  I guess that's where the cut-off  at the back end of the month comes from.

Regardless of a takeover happening or not, we'll need someone in situ by the end of May, which presumably might also help focus the minds of any potential buyers.

[brian green]

I agree with your rationale VID but there appears to be a log jam.  I cannot see it being anything minor like seeing out the season or the effect on season ticket sales.  My hunch is that the highest bidder wants to bring in their own manager.  The under bidders with more of an eye for a bargain will go through with Hollis's choice of manager, at least in the short term.

[Billy Walker]

I think we got Martin O'Neill in before Lerner bought the Club back in 2006.  Hopefully the same kind of thing is happening now, with the new owners totally on board with the appointment of the new boss.

[paul_e]

I agree with your rationale VID but there appears to be a log jam.  I cannot see it being anything minor like seeing out the season or the effect on season ticket sales.  My hunch is that the highest bidder wants to bring in their own manager.  The under bidders with more of an eye for a bargain will go through with Hollis's choice of manager, at least in the short term.

Surely if there are 3 bidders who've all completed due dilligence (as suggested above) the most likely delay will be us deciding which we're going to make the approved bidder.

[ROBBO]

Who's to say Hollis will continue after new owners come in, I am buying Aston Villa the administration of the club has been woeful leading to relegation, would I allow them to have any control over manager or playing staff, not on your nelly.

[old man villa fan]

Surely the decision on the new manager must be with the new owners. It goes hand in hand with their vision and how much money they will put in for rebuilding the squad. Going from the extremes of nothing to £50m, say, the manager could well be different.