You can't blame Ellis for Lerner's ineptitude. We may never be able to stand up against the oil barons but should be doing a fuck sight better against some of the dross that we are losing to now.How can anyone want us to be run by a recluse?
How can anyone want us to be run by a recluse?
Ellis was prepared to face the wrath of the supporters. Lerner is never seen.
Quote from: Dave Clark Five on April 09, 2014, 07:51:29 AMEllis was prepared to face the wrath of the supporters. Lerner is never seen. this. at least ellis took the flak.we had our worst ever league defeat in our 139 year history, and the worst home league records are tumbling by the season.does lerner even raise an eyelid? does he fuck!you've got more chance of bumping into lerner on bond street, than you have at villa park.
Quote from: brontebilly on April 09, 2014, 12:11:56 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2014, 11:59:13 PMDoug would not have put up with the record breaking achievements that Lambert is responsible for.The situation is worse now because at least you knew with Doug that he would not tolerate epic failure and for all his faults at least he cared.revisionist nonsenseWere in a mess when Lerner took over but in a worse financial position now and probably have a worse squad now too.Ellis put the breaks on spending at the club in order to maximise the personal profit he was going to make from a sale. Whether Lerner is at the same game remains to be seen. Will only know when he sells up I guess.Correct about HDE, I would say.On Randy, he has already demonstrated that he is not in it for the dosh, or he would have set up things differently by now.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2014, 11:59:13 PMDoug would not have put up with the record breaking achievements that Lambert is responsible for.The situation is worse now because at least you knew with Doug that he would not tolerate epic failure and for all his faults at least he cared.revisionist nonsenseWere in a mess when Lerner took over but in a worse financial position now and probably have a worse squad now too.Ellis put the breaks on spending at the club in order to maximise the personal profit he was going to make from a sale. Whether Lerner is at the same game remains to be seen. Will only know when he sells up I guess.
Doug would not have put up with the record breaking achievements that Lambert is responsible for.The situation is worse now because at least you knew with Doug that he would not tolerate epic failure and for all his faults at least he cared.
The funny thing is that, if it is worse now, it's worse because you just can't doubt the good intentions of the folks at the top, you just can't. Their off-the-pitch stuff has been immaculate, really. It's just that they don't appear to understand the first thing about on-the-pitch stuff, which is still an apparently fashionable gauge of the success of a football team.
Quote from: Montbert on April 09, 2014, 12:12:20 AMThe funny thing is that, if it is worse now, it's worse because you just can't doubt the good intentions of the folks at the top, you just can't. Their off-the-pitch stuff has been immaculate, really. It's just that they don't appear to understand the first thing about on-the-pitch stuff, which is still an apparently fashionable gauge of the success of a football team.When you say their off the pitch stuff, what exactly do you mean? I agree they are great with the charity/community stuff (we must be one of the top clubs their is at that), but the financial side they are failing if my memory of the accounts is correct. Are we (IIRC) struggling to get any decent corporate income?
Quote from: itbrvilla on April 09, 2014, 10:07:29 AMQuote from: Montbert on April 09, 2014, 12:12:20 AMThe funny thing is that, if it is worse now, it's worse because you just can't doubt the good intentions of the folks at the top, you just can't. Their off-the-pitch stuff has been immaculate, really. It's just that they don't appear to understand the first thing about on-the-pitch stuff, which is still an apparently fashionable gauge of the success of a football team.When you say their off the pitch stuff, what exactly do you mean? I agree they are great with the charity/community stuff (we must be one of the top clubs their is at that), but the financial side they are failing if my memory of the accounts is correct. Are we (IIRC) struggling to get any decent corporate income?Our turnover is less than it was 4 years ago isn't it?
Quote from: aj2k77 on April 09, 2014, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: itbrvilla on April 09, 2014, 10:07:29 AMQuote from: Montbert on April 09, 2014, 12:12:20 AMThe funny thing is that, if it is worse now, it's worse because you just can't doubt the good intentions of the folks at the top, you just can't. Their off-the-pitch stuff has been immaculate, really. It's just that they don't appear to understand the first thing about on-the-pitch stuff, which is still an apparently fashionable gauge of the success of a football team.When you say their off the pitch stuff, what exactly do you mean? I agree they are great with the charity/community stuff (we must be one of the top clubs their is at that), but the financial side they are failing if my memory of the accounts is correct. Are we (IIRC) struggling to get any decent corporate income?Our turnover is less than it was 4 years ago isn't it?Is that with the additional TV money?
Quote from: placeforparks on April 09, 2014, 09:38:06 AMQuote from: Dave Clark Five on April 09, 2014, 07:51:29 AMEllis was prepared to face the wrath of the supporters. Lerner is never seen. this. at least ellis took the flak.we had our worst ever league defeat in our 139 year history, and the worst home league records are tumbling by the season.does lerner even raise an eyelid? does he fuck!you've got more chance of bumping into lerner on bond street, than you have at villa park.He took a lot more than the flak. About £50 million, for a start.