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Offline class_of_82

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #105 on: April 08, 2014, 08:10:42 PM »
And yet another old fart here to folks, I travel up from essex now as an exiled brummie and travel up always in hope that we will play like we did against chelski or man city Norwich etc.but the journey home is so hard lately.
Every game to show how long I been going down I still say to myself "do what gidman did take em on goo take em on" when Bennett or lowton has the ball. Same when kea has the ball and I wish it was frank carrodus or des bremner. Then I sit back in my seat and sigh to myself and tell myself those days are gone.
I really do think the club and players are I the mindset that even if you finish one place above the relegation zone or one place below a Europa league place it really don't matter anymore because being in the prem is what it is all about.then.
But I can still dream about gidman at right back carrodus and his endless energy mortimers drive from midfield can't I then I look down and realise there not there anymore

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #106 on: April 08, 2014, 08:16:12 PM »
The teams that have beaten us at home in the Lambert seasons

Last season:

Everton
Man United
Spurs
Wigan
Southampton
Newcastle
Man City
Liverpool
Chelsea

This season:

Liverpool
Newcastle
Spurs
Everton
Man United
Crystal Palace
Arsenal
West Ham
Stoke
Fulham

It looks like this season we've moved on to losing at home to the poorer sides, something which wasn't so evident last year.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #107 on: April 08, 2014, 08:20:20 PM »
Inevitable though, I suppose, when you use the exact same tactical approach for each and every game.

Offline caster troy

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #108 on: April 08, 2014, 09:53:05 PM »
Teams come to Villa Park with great belief now, even if they haven't won away for months. It's a vicious circle under Lambert, the more predictable and poor we are, the more we lose, the more apprehensive we are at home next time around and the more fired up and confident the opposition.

Then there's Man City and Chelsea, who expect to win every away game anyway and turn up complacent at Villa Park, while our level of expectation is so low we have nothing to lose, and put in a better performance.






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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2014, 10:02:26 PM »
It seems that any team in need of a kick start gets exactly that when they play Villa. Bloody useless at home. Fair play to the fans for continuing to turn up in their droves, support the team and not turn against the Manager after yet another loss.

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2014, 10:09:03 PM »
Teams come to Villa Park with great belief now, even if they haven't won away for months. It's a vicious circle under Lambert, the more predictable and poor we are, the more we lose, the more apprehensive we are at home next time around and the more fired up and confident the opposition.

Then there's Man City and Chelsea, who expect to win every away game anyway and turn up complacent at Villa Park, while our level of expectation is so low we have nothing to lose, and put in a better performance.

I think in games against Chelsea and Man City we don't have a lot of the ball, so when we do get it we have to move quickly to open them up and catch them out of position.

But Fulham (like United the week before) conceded a sizeable amount of possession, so we get up the pitch OK, but then soon run out of space and ideas. We retain the ball pass it about in our own half. This continues until we get closed down, panic and give the ball away in bad areas. Which far too often results in a goal for the opposition.

In both games United and Fulham basically gave us the rope to hang ourselves with.

I think sometimes with the ball, we can look even worse defensively than when we don't have it.

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #111 on: April 09, 2014, 01:11:06 PM »
It seems that any team in need of a kick start gets exactly that when they play Villa. Bloody useless at home. Fair play to the fans for continuing to turn up in their droves, support the team and not turn against the Manager after yet another loss.
I for one will be amazed if that continues to be the case for the remainder of the season.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #112 on: April 09, 2014, 01:15:45 PM »
The home form alone is enough to see him sacked.

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2014, 04:20:18 PM »
It seems that any team in need of a kick start gets exactly that when they play Villa. Bloody useless at home. Fair play to the fans for continuing to turn up in their droves, support the team and not turn against the Manager after yet another loss.
I for one will be amazed if that continues to be the case for the remainder of the season.

Either Southampton or Hull (or both) could beat us, I just think the apathy and low crowds will mute any outcry unless we are 4-down at half-time.
Last week there was a concerted effort to support Lambert from the Upper Holte - I wonder if it will continue?

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #114 on: April 09, 2014, 04:24:45 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #115 on: April 09, 2014, 05:59:38 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.
I was one of the early leavers vs Stoke. The dominant emotion around the place was one of resignation and acceptance - we're a poor side that makes defensive mistakes and thus concedes!

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #116 on: April 09, 2014, 06:08:13 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.

I'd say it had as much to do with with it being 3-1 vs Stoke, or 4-1 depending how late folks stayed for, I was a;ready at the bus stop when someone walked past and said it was 4. Against Bolton it was 2-1 so there was still a chance of a result, I know that's why I stayed until the end that night.

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #117 on: April 09, 2014, 09:46:12 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.

Southampton will be the turning point

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #118 on: April 09, 2014, 09:49:56 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.

Southampton will be the turning point

We're going to beat Southampton 1-0. I dreamt about it weeks ago.

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Re: Indefensible home form.
« Reply #119 on: April 09, 2014, 10:12:12 PM »
The responses to the Stoke and Fulham defeats were apathetic. Especially Stoke. I have never seen the ground so empty on the final whistle. In contrast to the TSM Bolton game when the vast majority stayed specifically to make their feeling known.

I'd say it had as much to do with with it being 3-1 vs Stoke, or 4-1 depending how late folks stayed for, I was a;ready at the bus stop when someone walked past and said it was 4. Against Bolton it was 2-1 so there was still a chance of a result, I know that's why I stayed until the end that night.
I left my seat just a minute before they got the fourth. Pretty much shocked with the way we played from the 15 minute onwards as expectations were pretty high after beating Chelsea.

 


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