Quote from: supertom on March 29, 2014, 05:50:55 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on March 29, 2014, 05:32:33 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on March 29, 2014, 05:29:07 PMTonevHeleniusSteerLunaYou could put a pile of cash in one corner of the pitch and it would have more of an effect on the game. Kozak I've been through before, exactly not what we needed with £7m quid of our money with so many glaring holes elsewhere. Lambert does not know what he is doing. I get the feeling our wins are despite of him and very rarely because of him. One can only hope that in 12 months times he's getting up and going again with someone elses side.Those 4 are about £5mill in total. I'd trade all of them for one half decent 5 mill player to be honest. I don't see how most of these cheap signings could offer more than what our academy could produce either. In hindsight we all would. Although approx £1.5m on Steer and Helenius is worth it. Just for the gamble on potential.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on March 29, 2014, 05:32:33 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on March 29, 2014, 05:29:07 PMTonevHeleniusSteerLunaYou could put a pile of cash in one corner of the pitch and it would have more of an effect on the game. Kozak I've been through before, exactly not what we needed with £7m quid of our money with so many glaring holes elsewhere. Lambert does not know what he is doing. I get the feeling our wins are despite of him and very rarely because of him. One can only hope that in 12 months times he's getting up and going again with someone elses side.Those 4 are about £5mill in total. I'd trade all of them for one half decent 5 mill player to be honest. I don't see how most of these cheap signings could offer more than what our academy could produce either.
Quote from: aj2k77 on March 29, 2014, 05:29:07 PMTonevHeleniusSteerLunaYou could put a pile of cash in one corner of the pitch and it would have more of an effect on the game. Kozak I've been through before, exactly not what we needed with £7m quid of our money with so many glaring holes elsewhere. Lambert does not know what he is doing. I get the feeling our wins are despite of him and very rarely because of him. One can only hope that in 12 months times he's getting up and going again with someone elses side.Those 4 are about £5mill in total.
TonevHeleniusSteerLunaYou could put a pile of cash in one corner of the pitch and it would have more of an effect on the game. Kozak I've been through before, exactly not what we needed with £7m quid of our money with so many glaring holes elsewhere. Lambert does not know what he is doing. I get the feeling our wins are despite of him and very rarely because of him. One can only hope that in 12 months times he's getting up and going again with someone elses side.
How feckin dire was that
That was inept. Let's look forward. Seven points from the next 4 games should be achievable and 5 would be enough to then forget about Villa until August and focus on cup finals and the World Cup for other teams, all of which know the ABC basics of defending.
Quote from: Chris Smith on March 29, 2014, 03:13:25 PMQuote from: richard moore on March 29, 2014, 03:02:45 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on March 29, 2014, 02:53:16 PMHard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play. Really? I thought we were fucking shit as usual. I don't find it hard to know what to make of us at all or LambertBenteke could have had 3 and Clark had a clear header from a corner that he should have scored. We made plenty of chances but wasted them. So we were reasonably good going forward. Defensively we were dire but just to dismiss it all as 'fucking shit' is hardly conducive to any sort of proper debate. What good does proper debate do us Chris? Just how bad does it have to get? And for how long? The whole thing is 'fucking shit', if you want me to ponce it up for you and be all erudite and write long analyses about whether Helenius should be on the subs bench instead of Lowton yada yada yada, then I can do that very easily. Actually, 'fucking shit' as an overall analysis of the whole debacle this club has become is being kind. Sorry
Quote from: richard moore on March 29, 2014, 03:02:45 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on March 29, 2014, 02:53:16 PMHard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play. Really? I thought we were fucking shit as usual. I don't find it hard to know what to make of us at all or LambertBenteke could have had 3 and Clark had a clear header from a corner that he should have scored. We made plenty of chances but wasted them. So we were reasonably good going forward. Defensively we were dire but just to dismiss it all as 'fucking shit' is hardly conducive to any sort of proper debate.
Quote from: Chris Smith on March 29, 2014, 02:53:16 PMHard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play. Really? I thought we were fucking shit as usual. I don't find it hard to know what to make of us at all or Lambert
Hard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play.
Quote from: paulcomben on March 29, 2014, 06:22:29 PMThat was inept. Let's look forward. Seven points from the next 4 games should be achievable and 5 would be enough to then forget about Villa until August and focus on cup finals and the World Cup for other teams, all of which know the ABC basics of defending.And then what, another brush with relegation next year? Something fundamental has to change or it will happen sooner or later.