Manchester Utd vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[supertom]

Hard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play.

It reflects, Vlaar aside, how abysmal the defence is

When the midfield is the least bad part of our outfield unit you know you have had a bad day.

Bacuna - not a defender
Clark - not a Premiership player
Bertrand - not convinced
Alrbighton / Gabby / Weimann - quad player at best

Ho hum.

Yep. No to Bertrand in the summer he offers nothing and likes to go forward way too much.

I think he's an okay player, which probably marks an improvement on what we have, but yes, given what Chelsea will try and mug out of us, I'd look elsewhere.

[sirlordbaltimore]

What can you say about that ?

Predictable

[Chris Smith]

Hard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play.

It reflects, Vlaar aside, how abysmal the defence is

Inconsistent certainly, I look back to how well we defended against Chelsea for instance and struggle to reconcile it with that error strewn effort today.

[ez]

United think they're on the up because they beat us, hahaha

[Fin Feds Dad]

Would much rather have Bennett and Lowton as fullbacks .

[Stu]

The feelgood factor from Chelsea has well and truly disappeared. Here is one of those all too familiar tailspins.

That's the trouble, any time we look like building any sort of form it hits the skids. We saw it after Man City, after Southampton, after West Brom and then after Chelsea. Even if we win two on the bounce for example, we tend to then lose more in the next few weeks. What we're left with as such is a season in which we've won 9 in 31 games, and lost 15, almost half our games played. That's pathetic for Aston Villa football club.

It's because we're not a good side, it's as simple as that IMO. Every poor team shows occasional flashes of good play, but for the main part aren't any good. That's what we are.

[WestleyArmsAV]

Having had to endure the game at work in front of mainly Noses, who incidentally none of which will be travelling the 2 miles to their game today, I am not left angry or frustrated, but disillusioned at some of the players and as a Lambert supporter in whole, wondering what will actually happen with another season under him?

I am however 100% certain I feel sick that I actually felt sorry for Moyes of late, I hope they crash and burn even further and their glory hunting fans witness Liverpool win the league.

UTV.

[JUAN PABLO]

When the midfield is the least bad part of our outfield unit you know you have had a bad day.

Bacuna - not a defender
Clark - not a Premiership player
Bertrand - not convinced
Alrbighton / Gabby / Weimann - quad player at best

Ho hum.

Yep. No to Bertrand in the summer he offers nothing and likes to go forward way too much.

I would start with bennett next game    -

[Clark W Griswold]

I'd start Tonev ahead of Weimann next match, at least he knows the approximate postcode the goal is in. Weimann has been pretty woeful most of the season.

Crowd reaction to first Tonev effort:

Hilarious!!

How laughably shit Tonev was going to be was evident from the first time he touched the ball for us in his first ever game. You could tell that quickly. Think Boulding but worse.

[tomd2103]

The feelgood factor from Chelsea has well and truly disappeared. Here is one of those all too familiar tailspins.

That's the trouble, any time we look like building any sort of form it hits the skids. We saw it after Man City, after Southampton, after West Brom and then after Chelsea. Even if we win two on the bounce for example, we tend to then lose more in the next few weeks. What we're left with as such is a season in which we've won 9 in 31 games, and lost 15, almost half our games played. That's pathetic for Aston Villa football club.

I don't think that sort of record will ever change under Lambert. I know some might say we're mid-table, we're comfortable, but this isn't comfortable. Stoke are 10th, but they're a weak 10th. We're still too close to the bottom feeders. We're the loss of a key player or two from being in serious trouble next season too.

Problem is, those in positions of influence at the club obviously don't think it is. 

[chrisw1]

United must have been so chuffed when they saw this fixture come up.  They can't buy a good result then Villa bend over for them.  Stoke - one away win all season - touch your toes Villa we're coming in....

So angry right now.

[ez]

We missed Holt today.

[richard moore]

Hard to know what to make of that. We gave away poor goals but also missed several good chances. The score line in no way reflected the balance of play.

Really? I thought we were fucking shit as usual. I don't find it hard to know what to make of us at all or Lambert

[saunders_heroes]

8 conceded in 2 games. It just isn't good enough.

[supertom]

The feelgood factor from Chelsea has well and truly disappeared. Here is one of those all too familiar tailspins.

That's the trouble, any time we look like building any sort of form it hits the skids. We saw it after Man City, after Southampton, after West Brom and then after Chelsea. Even if we win two on the bounce for example, we tend to then lose more in the next few weeks. What we're left with as such is a season in which we've won 9 in 31 games, and lost 15, almost half our games played. That's pathetic for Aston Villa football club.

It's because we're not a good side, it's as simple as that IMO. Every poor team shows occasional flashes of good play, but for the main part aren't any good. That's what we are.

Can't argue with that. I don't think Lambert will find us any sort of consistency. I can't ever see him going 5-10 unbeaten to push us up if we need it. What if we're in the shit next season and have to have an end of season flurry? Martinez did it a couple of times at Wigan (before it caught up with them).
The players aren't good enough and the management is erratic to say the least.