Aston Villa v Stoke City post match thread

[ez]

Well thank heavens for the 2 previous results. Imagine the fallout tonight without them.

[saunders_heroes]

Why did we constantly hoof the ball up the pitch when practically every Stoke player was over 7ft? Talk about playing into their hands!
Lambert's tactics are just laughable.

[eastie]

For what it's worth I can see what Damo was trying to say. There is a bit of inconsistency with some posters on here and that will always be the way I suppose. Whilst no-one was saying Lambert was the best manager in the world last week, no-one was calling for his head either. A week later they are. I presume that's what Damo was suggesting and if so, I agree with him.

I was full of praise for him last week as he deserved credit as much as the team but I certainly wasn't calling for him to be given a new deal - there have been many false dawns under him.

Anyone last week calling for his head would look foolish after the Chelsea game and I prefer to praise when deserved and criticise when deserved .
Last week was a tome to celebrate but sadly they have been all too rare under lamberts reign.

I was amazed to see the vote swung from 70 % either wanting him out or unsure to only 20% against him on the back of two wins .

I have great respect for you damo and accept your point of view now clarified .

[London Villan]

Is losing 9 league games at home a record for us??

[Damo70]

Lambert's response of 'I expect I'll get blamed for that' would explain why we have such a petulant side. We were pathetic and had no character today.

It is a petulant answer and doesn't impress me. However I think it should be taken in the context of the consistent attitude, manner and tone of Pat Murphy in his dealings with Lambert.

[amfy]

Lambert's response of 'I expect I'll get blamed for that' would explain why we have such a petulant side. We were pathetic and had no character today.

Yet expecting him to take the blame for 5 and a half years when he wasn't here is fine? It was shit today - but that record isn't all, or even mostly, his. In fact, half of it is with a manager who gave us more 'success' than we'd see n in a long time.

[Clampy]

For what it's worth I can see what Damo was trying to say. There is a bit of inconsistency with some posters on here and that will always be the way I suppose. Whilst no-one was saying Lambert was the best manager in the world last week, no-one was calling for his head either. A week later they are. I presume that's what Damo was suggesting and if so, I agree with him.

Anyone last week calling for his head would look foolish after the Chelsea game and I prefer to praise when deserved and criticise when deserved .

That's exactly Damo's point (I think). You say he didn't deserve calls to be sacked last week but today he does? What happens if we beat Man Utd next week?

[PaulWinch again]

Lambert's response of 'I expect I'll get blamed for that' would explain why we have such a petulant side. We were pathetic and had no character today.

Yet expecting him to take the blame for 5 and a half years when he wasn't here is fine? It was shit today - but that record isn't all, or even mostly, his. In fact, half of it is with a manager who gave us more 'success' than we'd see n in a long time.

Well of course not, but who's blaming Lambert for our record before he arrived? I don't think anyone is.

[kippaxvilla2]

The biggest thing that annoys me about games like today is these guys will pick up anywhere between £10 and £50k for this 'performance'.  Did anyone see how pathetic Bacunas 'challenge' was for their last goal.  I mean come one, £10-20k for that shit?

[Clampy]

The biggest thing that annoys me about games like today is these guys will pick up anywhere between £10 and £50k for this 'performance'.  Did anyone see how pathetic Bacunas 'challenge' was for their last goal.  I mean come one, £10-20k for that shit?

That was Bacuna's worst game today, he was woeful.

[Des Little]

There were many times today when passes, tackles and positional sense wouldn't have looked out of place at a Sunday morning pub game. We really were f@cking hopeless all over the pitch.

[Dave Clark Five]

It was dire stuff but it seems like the Lambert Out brigade were almost hoping for something like this after the last two home games. And some of the biggest vitriol is coming from people who don't actually go to games. I can't defend today but let's at least see how the rest of the season plays out before we get all the knives out of the drawer for him.

Would you have given Alex McLeish any more time? Lambert is totally useless and must go, taking all of his ex-Norwich staff with him.

[PaulWinch again]

The biggest thing that annoys me about games like today is these guys will pick up anywhere between £10 and £50k for this 'performance'.  Did anyone see how pathetic Bacunas 'challenge' was for their last goal.  I mean come one, £10-20k for that shit?

That was Bacuna's worst game today, he was woeful.

Yep terrible and he just gave up as well.

[rob_bridge]

Perhaps the difference 'chrome is that we had a referee who was fair and not card happy.   I think we did try to man up a bit today but when we did we fell foul of vain Mr Clattenberg.   As Legion pointed out Stoke are still the same narky game manipulators they have always been but Mark Hughes gets a good press and Stoke are now the good guys.

Yes BG, that is spot on. They did not miss a trick to niggle and time waste, and we end up with 5 yellow cards.

That was Hughes as a pkayer. Kick snything that moves snd fall over when came up sgainst soneone eho wouldn't budge.

Anyway dire performance. Hooofall into penalty area only tactic.

Hughes and Stoke had our card marked.

[amfy]

Lambert's response of 'I expect I'll get blamed for that' would explain why we have such a petulant side. We were pathetic and had no character today.

Yet expecting him to take the blame for 5 and a half years when he wasn't here is fine? It was shit today - but that record isn't all, or even mostly, his. In fact, half of it is with a manager who gave us more 'success' than we'd see n in a long time.

Well of course not, but who's blaming Lambert for our record before he arrived? I don't think anyone is.

The question itself does. The fact that some consiider him refusing to accept the blame for stuff that happened years before he got here is 'petuleant' does. The fact that part of this record occurred whilst we were heading for 3 6th place finishes & a league cup final & an FA cup semi final shows that this stuff means f all anyway.