Relegation?

[olaftab]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

[UK Redsox]

I noticed on my Twitter feed last night that some Liverpool supporters are trying to convince themselves Villa could get a result at Man City. Their season may well be relying on Nathan Baker.

Funny to see people at both ends of the league clutching at straws.

It's a sign of a Misplaced Childhood.

[mike]

I don't see why Fulham are more likely to beat both Stoke and Palace than us picking up at least a point at home to the equally rubbish Shane Long FC Tigers.

Yes, he gave Baker a doings in the first ten minutes at the Shrine in November, but he is still bang average and Hull are almost as equally as shit as us, even if in slightly better form.

The fact they're safe with the biggest game in their existence to come against Arsenal will have an effect. We will get at least a point.

But a point is no good if Fulham win both games (unless we get another from City or Spurs) and irrelevant if they don't.

[Ads]

My point is that Fulham won't beat Stoke.

[adrenachrome]

My point is that Fulham won't beat Stoke.

Logic is on your side, Ads, but I seem to remember you stating with great conviction last season that Stoke would go down, because they were shit. Now you are saying Fulham are the worst team in the division even though they have beaten us twice.

Fulham are somewhat of a loose cannon, they are capable of scoring goals when it all clicks but have a dismal defence. Their manager  is a smart cookie and will get his tactics right to maximise their strengths. Anything can happen at Sterk.

Hull are the worst sort of opponents for us at VP. Even at their place they sat back and packed the midfield.

If Fulham are a loose cannon, we are a basket case. The crowd are going to be fired up with a manic energy which could quickly turn to outrage.

I think we will win, like a mad dog that can take no more punishment from a cruel master ad goes for the jugular.

[Toronto Villa]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

Really, I think the only people interested in us is us. We might be all of those things but in football terms nobody really gives a damn about Aston Villa outside of the obvious geographical catchment area. Either that or it is a paper/journalist writing an article to fill space as opposed to it really being any proper news story.

[pauliewalnuts]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

Really, I think the only people interested in us is us. We might be all of those things but in football terms nobody really gives a damn about Aston Villa outside of the obvious geographical catchment area.

That's not true at all.

If we went down, it would be a big story.

[Reuben]

I noticed on my Twitter feed last night that some Liverpool supporters are trying to convince themselves Villa could get a result at Man City. Their season may well be relying on Nathan Baker.

Funny to see people at both ends of the league clutching at straws.

It's a sign of a Misplaced Childhood.

I wish some posters would go incommunicado with these puns

[Toronto Villa]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

Really, I think the only people interested in us is us. We might be all of those things but in football terms nobody really gives a damn about Aston Villa outside of the obvious geographical catchment area.

That's not true at all.

If we went down, it would be a big story.

Getting relegated would be a big story. A story about pay cuts at Aston Villa IF we are relegated, who cares?

[silhillvilla]

Honestly I think we are a lot less relevant than we think we are , albeit the media have been waiting for us to be relegated for 3 years now so it will grab a few pages on the rags for a day or two. Then we'll be forgotten again.

[Toronto Villa]

Honestly I think we are a lot less relevant than we think we are , albeit the media have been waiting for us to be relegated for 3 years now so it will grab a few pages on the rags for a day or two. Then we'll be forgotten again.

That's what I think unfortunately. We're just not that relevant in the media. Newcastle a few years back was a big story because they are media darlings/Shearer/Geordies etc. If Villa went, we'd be devastated as would those in the media who might have fondness for us, but after that it would be washed over in couple of days.

[pauliewalnuts]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

Really, I think the only people interested in us is us. We might be all of those things but in football terms nobody really gives a damn about Aston Villa outside of the obvious geographical catchment area.

That's not true at all.

If we went down, it would be a big story.

Getting relegated would be a big story. A story about pay cuts at Aston Villa IF we are relegated, who cares?

That's really not the same as nobody giving a damn about Villa outside the relevant catchment area, though, is it?

[Dave]

Honestly I think we are a lot less relevant than we think we are , albeit the media have been waiting for us to be relegated for 3 years now so it will grab a few pages on the rags for a day or two. Then we'll be forgotten again.

That's what I think unfortunately. We're just not that relevant in the media. Newcastle a few years back was a big story because they are media darlings/Shearer/Geordies etc. If Villa went, we'd be devastated as would those in the media who might have fondness for us, but after that it would be washed over in couple of days.

We're hardly Liverpool in the media stakes, but I think that when it eventually happens, us going down will be every bit as big a media story as when Newcastle went down.

[Toronto Villa]

I hope the Telegraph are going to publish an article about potential pay cuts to players at Norwich, Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff this morning too.

We are a big club in a big city that is why they have covered us. Others you mention here are minnows or provincial. No one is interested  in them.

Really, I think the only people interested in us is us. We might be all of those things but in football terms nobody really gives a damn about Aston Villa outside of the obvious geographical catchment area.

That's not true at all.

If we went down, it would be a big story.

Getting relegated would be a big story. A story about pay cuts at Aston Villa IF we are relegated, who cares?

That's really not the same as nobody giving a damn about Villa outside the relevant catchment area, though, is it?

I just don't think they really do. Just my opinion. I think most football fans are primarily obsessed about their own clubs, and beyond that it is what is being fed to them on daily basis by the likes of Sky and Talksport. I can tell you over here, the radio stations talking about football will talk endlessly about Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U and never mention anyone else but in passing. If clubs like Villa get mentioned then it is for about 30 seconds because we might have beaten Chelsea, and then for 5 hours about Chelsea and their problems. I just don't think we are a relevant club at the moment. As a club we have done it to ourselves too that we have just floated along since MON from one miserable year after another to the point where people expect us to be like Stoke or Fulham. Just existing. The one thing we have over clubs like them though is if we get it together people are far more likely to jump on our bandwagon than theirs. Even clubs like Everton for as good as a season as they have had barely get mentioned other than to say Martinez has done a good job, but nothing truly in depth as to how and why. Yet Spurs by comparison are discussed at length for farting loudly.

[Toronto Villa]

Honestly I think we are a lot less relevant than we think we are , albeit the media have been waiting for us to be relegated for 3 years now so it will grab a few pages on the rags for a day or two. Then we'll be forgotten again.

That's what I think unfortunately. We're just not that relevant in the media. Newcastle a few years back was a big story because they are media darlings/Shearer/Geordies etc. If Villa went, we'd be devastated as would those in the media who might have fondness for us, but after that it would be washed over in couple of days.

We're hardly Liverpool in the media stakes, but I think that when it eventually happens, us going down will be every bit as big a media story as when Newcastle went down.

I think it will be a big story if we went. But I don't think it will be like Newcastle. Newcastle had Shearer at the helm. They had the obsession with the fans, Geordie nation bollocks. They had a nuts owner and board. Even if it isn't positive news at Newcastle, it is more newsworthy than our board that nobody really knows and but for a couple of players, nobody really knows.