Relegation?

[Mister E]

After the horrors of the last relegation, I don't want to experience it again.

"the horrors"? - we spent one season in the second and came back up stronger with a credible and effective manager, coming runners-up in 1990. Not a bad way to bounce back from the horrors of the mid-80's.

[martin o`who??]

I think if we do lose to Norwich,  he will walk before he's pushed.
What a sad state of affairs at Villa park nowadays.

Very few seem to do that these days, MON is an obvious example of one who did, but he had been making noises to that effect for some time, and immediately tried to sue us for constructive. PL seems like one who will stay till the bitter (extremely) end.

[Stu]

I think if we do lose to Norwich,  he will walk before he's pushed.
What a sad state of affairs at Villa park nowadays.

Very few seem to do that these days, MON is an obvious example of one who did, but he had been making noises to that effect for some time, and immediately tried to sue us for constructive.

And was successful in doing so wasn't he?

[rob_bridge]

After the horrors of the last relegation, I don't want to experience it again.

"the horrors"? - we spent one season in the second and came back up stronger with a credible and effective manager, coming runners-up in 1990. Not a bad way to bounce back from the horrors of the mid-80's.

'The horrors' being 1986 - 1987. And it was horrific. Better stuff then occured.

[supertom]

After the horrors of the last relegation, I don't want to experience it again.

"the horrors"? - we spent one season in the second and came back up stronger with a credible and effective manager, coming runners-up in 1990. Not a bad way to bounce back from the horrors of the mid-80's.

'The horrors' being 1986 - 1987. And it was horrific. Better stuff then occured.

In a whole different era too. The way the game is nowadays it'll be a hell of a lot worse for us. If we were lucky enough to come straight back up, which given the squad, isn't close to a forgone conclusion, we'd just be coming up to tread water and fight relegation again. That is of course unless there's a significant re-investment.
Certainly there'd be more chance of us doing a double drop than there would of coming up and finishing 2nd.

[Chico Hamilton III]

After the horrors of the last relegation, I don't want to experience it again.

"the horrors"? - we spent one season in the second and came back up stronger with a credible and effective manager, coming runners-up in 1990. Not a bad way to bounce back from the horrors of the mid-80's.

I wonder how different things would have turned out had we not gone back up to the top flight ( by the skin of our teeth) in our first attempt. The second division was a novelty, we were a big fish in a small pond and it was a great adventure, travelling to some obscure outposts. A second season of that would have been miserable though.

Imagine playing home games next season against teams like Brentford, Peterborough, Rotherham - eveny Walsal, who are just outside the playoffs. There's 20,000 wiped off our average crowd. And if we didn't come straight back up it would be a disaster

We might be shit at the moment but we'd be whole lot shitter in the second division. Which is why we should act now and sack Lambert

[Billy Walker]

After the horrors of the last relegation, I don't want to experience it again.

"the horrors"? - we spent one season in the second and came back up stronger with a credible and effective manager, coming runners-up in 1990. Not a bad way to bounce back from the horrors of the mid-80's.

The relegation was awful and it would absolutely sicken me to go through it again.    It also happened, unfortunately, at a time when football was going through big changes.  As an example, while we were down and out, floundering out of the spotlight, Greg Dyke and the "Big Five" were getting together and planning to change the face of English football.  Considering Villa were a more successful club than four of those "big" five clubs at the time and had recently been European Champs, I'm sure we would have had a seat at the top table had it not been for our slump and relegation.  The impact and scars of relegation can run deep and can cause serious harm to a club's image and status.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Lose to Norwich and you don't have to worry about Lambert.

You convinced he's on thin ice?

I will go with ROBBO on this one. If we lose to Narwich.............. then the writing is on the wall for Lambert. There are some rumours around from, well, what you could call reliable sources that all is not well at all. Nothing that has not been said before by the way, but they are getting stronger, these rumours. They are not from the media either but from other sources close to what is going on, so the info says.

That's clear

[rob_bridge]

Lose to Norwich and you don't have to worry about Lambert.

You convinced he's on thin ice?

I will go with ROBBO on this one. If we lose to Narwich.............. then the writing is on the wall for Lambert. There are some rumours around from, well, what you could call reliable sources that all is not well at all. Nothing that has not been said before by the way, but they are getting stronger, these rumours. They are not from the media either but from other sources close to what is going on, so the info says.

That's clear

There are known knowns and known unknowns. There are also unknown unknowns

[levico]

Arguably the worst outcome on Sunday is a draw.

Ok another valuable point but it defuses the situation a little without addressing the problem. PL survives and we carry on.

[Irish villain]

Arguably the worst outcome on Sunday is a draw.

Ok another valuable point but it defuses the situation a little without addressing the problem. PL survives and we carry on.

A point closer to safety all the same. I'd hate to lose this game....

[supertom]

Arguably the worst outcome on Sunday is a draw.

Ok another valuable point but it defuses the situation a little without addressing the problem. PL survives and we carry on.

A point closer to safety all the same. I'd hate to lose this game....

Yep, and since there's not a chance in hell Lambert will get sacked before the summer, I'll take every point that comes our way.

[rob_bridge]

Arguably the worst outcome on Sunday is a draw.

Ok another valuable point but it defuses the situation a little without addressing the problem. PL survives and we carry on.

A point closer to safety all the same. I'd hate to lose this game....

Agree the worse result is a loss.
The best result is a win.
A draw is the 2nd best result.

[danlanza]

We have to win on Sunday. Anything else is just not acceptable.

[Des Little]

I think a defeat on Sunday and the whole dynamic changes.  The crowd would turn massively and the Norwich board would be giving it large and rubbing noses in it I'm sure...surely this would be the final straw.